In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
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The Progressive Hypocrisy of Liberalism

The facebook group 'Muslims for Progressive Values' has just banned me, after I respectfully challenged them on their beliefs the Islam supports secularism, and I challenged them on their condemnation of polygamy in Islam. It's a funny group, they claim they are 'Muslims' and they claim they are liberal. But despite their support for 'freedom' for consenting adults to do whatever they please (e.g. adultery, gay marriage, mistresses etc), they draw the line at polygamy!! Oh the inconsistency of Liberal 'Muslims'. Not to mention the fact that they claim to support 'critical thinking', yet when someone actually comes to their page to think critically about THEIR beliefs, they react with bigotry and intolerance.

They argued that Muslim women who accept polygamous marriages, have been 'brainwashed', and anyone who claims that polygamous marriage is morally acceptable, 'should be condemned'. This is despite the fact that polygamy is between consenting adults, has reasonable terms and conditions, and was practiced by many Prophets.

Liberals (individualists) may call themselves 'Liberal', and believers in 'freedom', but these are just euphemisms, or terms they use to sell their ideology (materialistic individualism). No doubt, the Communists believed they were liberating the proletariat (i.e. working classes of the world) with their system, and the Nazi's believed they were liberators of the German people, and the Zionists believed they are liberators of the jewish people etc every one believes they are 'liberators' and 'free', however they only mean that they 'free' people to follow their specifically dictated way of life - not real freedom. At least Islam only limits is laws to its own adherents who have willingly embraced it. All the other ideologies, historically and currently, imposed their views on others, and dictate the tune everyone should dance to.

Liberals, like the rest of the materialist ideologies mentioned above, only permit what they think it 'good' and prohibit what they think it 'bad'. And the difference between them and others, is merely what set of values they consider good and bad. And anything that subjects 'individuals' to non-materialistic power greater than themselves, is something Liberalism detests - and will not tolerate.

The Liberal 'Muslims' I encountered are no different. For just because someone believes in God, doesn't mean they'll accept His commands, prohibitions and permissions, if it is inconvenient to their own prejudices. Polygamy is detested by Liberals, because of their prejudice against its source - God's law. They believe that Polygamy is wrong because it can't be justified by individualism, and so they will be not-so-liberal towards it. And thus their hypocrisy is exposed.

This reminds me of the Liberal opposition to the Niqab and voluntary gender segregation in university lectures (because of religious reasons), yet they are happy with traditional schools with gender segregation (e.g. Eton), segregation in sports, public bathrooms and even Feminist created 'safe spaces' for women (not refuges). Liberals decry cultures (rightly) for practicing female genital mutilation, yet they permit labioplasties as part of the services offered at cosmetic surgery clinics, of which 90% of their clients are women!

And why this double standards? Because under the creed of Liberalism, the individual is supreme. And if anything 'dares' be greater than the individual, or interfere with the lives of Individuals without justification by reference to materialist Individualism, it will not be tolerated by Liberals. Sadly, this means religion, divine law and God.

Vision Without Glasses


Keith Pullman said...

There is no good reason to deny that we must keep evolving until an adult, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, monogamy or polyamory, race, or religion is free to marry any and all consenting adults. The limited same-gender freedom to marry is a great and historic step, but is NOT full marriage equality, because equality "just for some" is not equality. Let's stand up for EVERY ADULT'S right to marry the person(s) they love. Get on the right side of history!

Saif Katana said...

Truth IS Justice.
Doing what is true is doing what is right.

You claim "equality" is the truth.

But truth and falsehood can never be equal.

(Divine) Judgment is based on choice.
Choice is intention in action.
Thus we are judged for what we choose to do combined with our intention behind it.
*Implying we cannot be judged for what we cannot choose.*

Statements depend upon context.
Responsibility depends upon ability.
*Thus if we are unable, we are not responsible.*

Proponents of homosexual behavior, traditionally called sodomy,
claim that homosexual attraction is hardwired by birth in the genes.
"They are simply born with the unalterable homosexual desire"
Then they claim "desire (fatalistically) necessitates action."
Thus claiming "Homosexual actions "sodomy" is (fatalistically) destined by birth!"

So the argument for homosexuality is ...
"Homosexual actions (sodomy) is (fatalistically) destined by birth!"
We cannot control nor alter our actions, thus we are not responsible.
We cannot be judged for what we cannot choose, "we are born that way!"
Thus they claim...
"Homosexual behavior is not only not a sin,
but the support of homosexual behavior is a moral duty!"

It is a nice argument, only if it wasn't so utterly misguided.
These moral principles are correct and actually also supported by the Quran and Sunnah (Way) of the Prophets.
(Divine) Judgment is based on choice.

Choice is intention in action.
Thus we are judged for what we choose to do combined with our intention behind it.
*Implying we cannot be judged for what we cannot choose.*

Statements depend upon context.
Responsibility depends upon ability.
*Thus if we are unable, we are not responsible.*

However the "factual" claims are very weak.

1. Claiming (ALL) homosexual desire is (fatalistically) determined by birth is false.
Otherwise people would not be able to switch from homosexual to heterosexual "orientation" within one lifetime.

2. Desire does not (fatalistically) lead to action! thus...
3. ... desire does not make something morally right!

Fear does not make cowardice right.
Anger does not make recklessness and brutality right.
Lust does not make fornication and sodomy right.
Greed does not make corruption, oppression and gluttony right.
Pride does not make arrogance right.
Desire does not make an action right!
All men have the desire to have sex with many women, but that does not give them the moral right to do so!
It is not about destroying or submitting to our desires,
but about balancing and controlling them! [4:27]
Allah wishes to accept your repentance, but those who follow their lusts, wish that you (believers) should deviate tremendously away from the Right Path. [23:71]
And if the truth had been in accordance with their desires, verily, the heavens and the earth, and whosoever is therein would have been corrupted! Nay, We have brought them their reminder, but they turn away from their reminder. [28:50]
But if they do not respond to you - then know that they only follow their [own] desires. And who is more astray than one who follows his desire without guidance from Allah ? Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

Saif Katana said...

4. Desire itself is not a sin.
Judgment is based on choice, action + intention.
Thus the sin is when a desire is acted upon unjustly,
out of BALANCE (the true equality) with the Creator's Natural Law.

Actually fighting desire and controlling it is the essence of life.
Although we are born with certain different inclinations of lust, gluttony, courage, intellect etc. They are not fixed and can be improved upon, with effort.
And in cases they are utterly broken, we should care for such spiritually disabled people with compassion just as we do with physically or mentally disabled people.
But we should not promote and spread the spiritual corruption through society, nor help people in indulging in it. [7:80-82]
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
But the answer of his people was only that they said, "Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure."

I have thus far only show the error in the argumentation for morally supporting homosexuality and claimed it is wrong since Allah the Creator is the Truth and he states it is wrong, thus homosexual action is wrong.

This is enough to convince Muslims who already belief in the Quran.
And since this is an Islamic site this is sufficient for the target audience of this website.

But just to help non-Muslims reflect on this matter...

There are many rights the creator has given us.
One of which is that both men and women cannot be forced to marry someone they don't want to marry. And that they can marry a spouse from the opposite gender, within some limits (physical maturity, financial responsibility, etc.).

But humans have many rights and going to extremes in one right, will make us humans transgress other rights.

The extreme freedom of the individual transgresses the right of the community.
The extreme freedom of the community transgresses the right of the individual.
The extremes of speech (lies, disruption, vain talk, slander, deception) transgress the right to intellect and truth.
The extreme freedom of the children transgress the rights of the parents.
The extreme freedom of the parents transgresses the right of the children.

The extreme rights in marriage and sexual intercourse (not only sodomy but also heterosexual sex outside marriage) transgresses the rights of the family, the children, the harmony between the sexes in society and the trust amongst people within society.

A children have a right for their parents to love them and for their parents to love each other, as best as they can.
Children have a right to know who their parents are! Who they are!

A huge conflict point in families is inheritance rights. Bringing chaos in a child's bloodline, will increase the risk of chaos in the inheritance rights, and thus the harmony within families.

The family is the foundation of a harmonious society.
If you break the family, you break society and will let tyrants "divide and rule" the weak and scattered individuals that remain.

Deeds are judged by their endings.
Actions are judged by their results.
Life is judged in death.
Yes! Let us be on the right side of history!
They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

May Allah bless you all with Paradise and the means towards it.
Including those now struggling with their sexuality ^-^

- Saif Katana

GS said...

Thank you Brother Saif, may we publish what you wrote?

Saif Katana said...

Of course
If you don't mind the spelling mistakes ^-^

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