by Meinhaj Hussain
m.hussain@grandestrategy.com
Pakistan and India. Two regional powers frequently at war, armed to the teeth, possessing nuclear weapons and with no end in sight to their mutual animosity. War in the Subcontinent today has very high stakes. But none higher than in their respective air arms. Given the importance of air combat to modern warfare, a crucial factor to analyze the outcome of any conflict between them becomes analyzing the viability of each air force. For wars today always begin in air combat, and the successor there often has Fate decide in its favor.
The Pakistan Air Force has traditionally been known as one of the most professional air forces in the world. But the 1990s was a tough decade for the PAF and much of their prestige was lost. Pakistan chose to invest in nuclear weapons and diverted resources there. Damaging sanctions against Pakistan also hurt the PAF more than any other armed service. Thus, a decade was lost and PAF was left behind.
The Indian Air Force meanwhile, found the 1990s most fruitful. They progressed in leaps and bounds as the Indian economy expanded, military equipment from the West and Russia opened up and the IAF started learning and incorporating Western standards of air combat. Yet there were times when India's political environment forced itself upon the IAF. Forced to wait for a local replacement for its MiG-21s that has been in development for over 20 years, and forced to abandon purchases because of political interference from within India, the IAF, on the turn of the century, found itself restrained.
Pakistan meanwhile gained momentum. Years of sanctions led to the development of a joint project with China - the JF-17. Unlike the Indian effort, this bore fruit quickly, under the able leadership of the PAF and astute decision making on the part of their military leader Musharraf. And after 9/11 the doors to Western equipment and military aid opened up again. But constant stalling plagued them such that little of concrete and operational value has been inducted. The PAF is nevertheless modernizing and by 2012 would have caught up with the IAF. With induction in numbers of JF-17s and J-10s by the end of 2009, the PAF will see the gap vis-à-vis the IAF close rapidly.
Yet in the Winter of 2008/2009, the PAF is half-made and the threat of war is thrust upon her. The PAF and IAF are on their highest alert as the IAF sees its last opportunity to break the PAF, and the PAF holds strong and refuses to back down. The vital question thus becomes what will happen if war broke out now. Today. Would the PAF collapse? Such a question cannot be answered without looking carefully at the assets and capabilities of both air forces.
The first salients we notice is that the IAF is far larger with about 740 combat aircraft versus the PAF's approximate 400 aircraft. We see that the IAF has over 100 FLANKERs that are modernized and top-rate against the PAF's handful of early block F-16As. The IAF fields BVR missiles in platforms ranging from the MiG-21 Bisons to the Su-30 MKI against a PAF which officially does not have BVRs.
Yet everything is not as it seems. What at first glance seems overwhelming odds against the PAF on closer examination, do not seem as overwhelming. For instance, the IAF has far lower serviceability of its aircraft. Their pilot training as evidenced by recent Red Flag exercises with the US is also not yet up to par with the PAF and their maintenance crews are not as diligent. Their mainly Russian/Soviet technology is generally less reliable and less effective than advertised and a large part of their fleet of MiG-21s and MiG-27s are outdated. PAF aircraft are either of Western stock or Chinese and are far more maintenance friendly. Pakistan has also been upgrading their aircraft massively and have incorporated a complex combination of technology from across the globe – from China to Brazil, from South Africa to the US. PAF also very likely has BVRs that are not advertised possibly of South African and Chinese origin. PAF pilot training is on par with the best in the world and its maintenance crews are trained on the level of Western maintenance crews. Lastly, fighting an air war over Pakistan gives the PAF a home advantage and makes their radar and SAM infrastructure very relevant.
IAF aircraft are mainly of Soviet/Russian origin and are not designed for long-term serviceability. The Soviets designed aircraft for mass production and on the view that combat aircraft would have short lives in a full scale conflict. As such, ease of maintenance was the last factor on their mind. Even the latest Indian acquisition of Russian aircraft, the Su-30 MKI is known for being highly maintenance intensive and extremely fragile. Modifications to the FLANKERs have made them even more difficult to maintain – an example being that IAF sometimes faces tire shortages because the increased tonnage of the Indian FLANKERs make their tires burn out more rapidly.
Indian maintenance crews are also not up to par – at least compared to Western air forces. The large number of IAF crashes is indicative of this with one of the highest rates amongst air forces of the world. What compounds this problem is the age of large sections of the Indian fleet which has large numbers of MiG-21s and MiG-27s that are, besides the Bisons, highly outdated and are sometimes referred to as “Flying Coffins” by their pilots. It is no wonder that India has a hard time recruiting and retaining pilots.
Pakistan on the other hand has no problems recruiting pilots, the PAF has one of the highest rejection rates amongst air forces in the world. The PAF also has a better pilot to aircaft ratio than the IAF meaning it could sustain a greater sortie rate over a protracted conflict. PAF aircraft are also “pimped” in that they have been extensively modified. Thus, while on paper PAF is flying ancient Mirages that were bought second hand from the Australians, when one actually examines any such model, one is surprised at how extensively they have been rebuilt – almost from scratch and the hardware is extremely lethal. Other than the secretive BVR AAMs, the PAF has extensively incorporated the strike element into its Mirages, at a level only matched by the IAF’s Mirage-2000s and Su-30 FLANKERs and even then some of the equipment has no IAF equivalent.
Let us also remember than any conflict between the two forces would last a maximum of 2 weeks as neither side has the logistics or the political will to fight a longer war. This means that the smaller air force can sustain itself on a more equal footing for the briefer period of time. Another issue is that the IAF’s fleet of MiG-21s are very short legged. the PAF’s F-7s have better ranges and also don’t need to fly as far given that they would be defending. Considering how large the IAF’s fleet of MiG-21, this becomes a rather relevant point. It would be hard to imagine IAF’s MiG-21s being able to sustain a presence over Pakistani airspace. Meanwhile, Pakistani cruise missiles and ballistic missiles are significantly more developed, effective and numerous than their Indian counterparts. This means that many of the forward Indian air bases would effectively be discounted further compounding the problem for the IAF.
All these factors suggest a far more complex and mixed picture of the balance between the two air forces. To quantify military power in a more concrete way and to see how this balance plays out, let us look at a model of the PAF and the IAF. We can consider three main elements - number of aircraft, how valuable each aircraft is in battle and aircraft serviceability. We have the number of aircraft as a given. We assign percentages for serviceability, and assign a value between 0 and 1 for how effective each aircraft is. To get a broadly accurate picture, these numbers do not have to be absolutely accurate, but relatively accurate. The Table below illustrates this model:
We find the aggregate combat value by multiplying each of the factors and the number of aircraft. As you notice, I have not included factors such as home advantage to the PAF, PAF’s higher pilot ratio or PAF’s better training. I have also not included the short-legged nature of the MiG-21s and India’s likely inability to lose (or risk not losing) their forward air bases effectively rendering them non-operational. These factors are more intrinsic and are harder to quantify so I will leave the reader to judge by how much to upgrade the PAF’s score on these parameters, or discount the IAF’s.
I am assuming that Air-to-Ground capabilities will also be an important aspect as destroying enemy aircraft on the ground or important installations is a significant element of the air war. I therefore am holding higher numbers of effectiveness for aircraft on both sides that otherwise would be completely redundant such as the IAF MiG-27. Of course, Air-to-Air is more important generally but strike missions should also be considered relevant. As such the model is only moderately biased towards air-to-air capabilities.
Conclusion
It would appear that the IAF is still the superior force. And while accounting for the exogenous items in this model would further lower the gap than the massive 39% gap shown in the table, depending on how it is discounted it is still decidedly in India’s favor. However given the short nature of any conflict between India and Pakistan the gap does not lend credibility to India attaining air superiority over Pakistan under any scenario as could be concluded if we took the 82% gap in numbers. I believe that the gap has to at least be 100% to have a reasonable chance of achieving air superiority over Pakistan. Nevertheless, the PAF would likely sustain significant causalities but would be able to deny the IAF any semblance of air superiority over Pakistan, at least for any conflict lasting up to a few weeks. As long as the PAF can deny the IAF air superiority it can be considered to have done its job and would be ready to pick the pieces up from where it left it in the last conflict over Kargil.


192 comments:
Ha Ha Ha.....
Nice essay Hussain! Good imagination!(far from reality)
Which school you are in.
We Indians will show you soon how we can establish air superiority over Pakistan as soon as the sky clears. Then we will see what your spreadsheet looks like.
Our Bisons are enough for your "air force"
Kumar Said,
I pity your knowledge kid.
Another pakistani brought up in a country where military is next to god..military is always strong..btw..about all the modernization and buying spares..you guys have forex covering weeks of imports. You would running your tanks on water if not for IMF loans..you are negotiating deals with Iran to import oil and pay later..wake up ..dude wake up..begging bowls dont work for military acquisitions..
I just have one thing to say to the bhindians, "Start the war already!!" We are frankly fedup of hearing your laloo prasad dhoti wala politicians and untrained ganwar purohit-terrorist-club excuse-for-an-army crib and complain all the time about how 10 LeT militants (or were they your own terrorists?) kept your "special forces" going for 3 days. Then we heard all these vegetarian threats from you. We are now tired of your ugly faces and your hoarse voices. Just please attack already and then we'll see how it all ends up. You deployed your army in 2002 and had to face the embarassment of de-escalating without getting a single demand fulfilled. Try it again, Bhindians, why don't you!!
Just for the record, I am not Pakistani by a long stretch - I happen to be from Bangladesh (and proud of my country).
why all the hate?
hahha just look a the bhindians shivvering off. we have already seen how much balls you ppl have after the mumbai attacks, have already backed off frm a war. rhandia will be raped in the ass with a steel dildo :D by pakistan, so better gear up rhandians bcz daddy is coming back :D
I don't understand why this Pakistani are so suffering from self-preservation to provide some consolation to their mindset under the cloud of repeated terror attack in their country. If one happens to visit a website PDF, then one can come across numerous E-Morons who are suffering from some illness and hence they can't see a reality since it only makes them uncomfortable in their fantacy land. It only taken few warnings from Indian Foriegn Minister to make Zardari wet in his pant and divert all the troop from NWFP to Eastern border.
Good analysis, the numbers of fighters involved are all correct. I am using them for my own analysis. There are two problems though: one war will last more than two weeks; and two Pk after first week will essentially be trying hit and run over its own air space. For all effective purposes Paf will have conceded air superiority though as always Paf will be fooling its people with stories about how old rusted fighters held off Sukhois. Lose and claim victory, why am I not surprised!
I guess that you are forgeting that the pulling back of trops from NWFP wet the pants of those bullshit Americans fearing increased attacks against their presence in Afghanistan and forced America to pull hard at your rope and stop the continous barking of the Indian Politicians. So we have set the record straight and proved ourselves to be a peace loving nation at the same time..... so dream on boys.
Agni Failure
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Agni_Failure_Bad_News_For_India_999.html
The analysis will be more relevant if Iaf did not try shock and awe on opening day of the conflict. It has to send in 200 fighters to neutralize Paf central command. Once central command is out of the picture, it can easily neutralize southern and northern command. If Iaf decided to send a few squadrons at a time, it will turn out to be the way it is detailed above.
What is your guess at what India is doing right now? It is telling Americans it needs to see dramatic action else it will strike. Americans are asking India for some time to convince Pakistan. If India did finally strike it would have done after Americans failed to deliver. At that point India will let Americans cry and go on to achieve its objective i.e. cause over $200 billion dollar of infrastructure damage to Pakistan while wiping out its air force and navy.
"ass with a steel dildo"? The usual rustic village idiot Pakistanis show up everywhere. Truely Punjabi culture!
i dont understand why all pak's are so exited to get in to war. mr.hussain best analysis would be to look in to past and learn lessons.every super power in the world is warning pakistan to act against terror.and here instead of doing that you guys are discussing about air superiority.this clearly indicates pak's support to terror against india.
Bhindians. why dont you learn something from Operation parakharm. Where more than 700 red ass monkey bhindians were dead without even a shot being fired from Pak army. Dont just bark like dog. do something if you can.
Pakistan hameesha Paindabaad
Indian forces will never attack Pakistan, they are so scared of our Missile technology and even more scared of our Nuclear arsenal. We wont hestitate to use these both and you know this. That is why you come up with false threats and then backoff. COWARDS! - If you have any dignity attack us NOW! cowards - go back to your homes and watch Saas bhee khabee bahoo thee and dance - FOOLs!!
I think it is best that we should smuggle some nukes to india and bomb their financial centers like Mumbai and Bangalur. - dont they remmember how they have been ruled for centurires by us. I think it is time to rule these bhindians again. Oye Indian! - WE CAN DO THIS AGAIN!!!!
hey anonymous ass hole..
first learn to save ur ass from taliban ..
know why people are fleeing from north west pakistan....idiot anonymous just find out why ur swat valley is full of insects than tourists.....and by the way save ur kids ...becoz taliban may kill ur girl child if u send her to school...and save ur culture ...ha ha ...
by the way if a nuclear was is triggered ....we may loose some of our cities ..but .there will be no pakistan on world map...
nnn who is ruling ur country is it taliban or zardari or military...oh may be half is taliban and 1/4 is by zardari and remaining ur shiting military......
first save ur child and culture than speak about war asshole
Paki name should be changed to SALWARISTAN as it is their national dress and they do not feel ashamed when their women and wear this UNISEX dress proving them to be SALWAR people it was nationalised afte loosing war of East Pakistan who talk vulgar language when conforted and people like hussein discuss who donot know ABCD of war and forget Indians cover their raped women who were lying in paki bunkers naked
Pak's stregedy for defence 75% on missiles, and india 75% on air force!!
There is no question on missile technology superiority of pakistan!! and for airforce you should learn lesson from old wars, in which ratio of shotting down planes were 3:1, in favour of pakistan!! And M.M Alam was the highest scorer in all wars b/w pak and india who shot down 4 indian jets in less then 40seconds and total 6planes!!
And you should remember India's defence expenditure is 5 times bigger then pak's.
Tell me if we equalize the expenditure of both countries, then who will win the war??
And also if we multiply pak's expenditure by 5 times of india, (which is present but opposite ie india's expenditure is 5time) then tell me what will happen!!
This tell us who is superior!!
Ur expenditure is 5 time but u cant dare attack pakistan!
U can fire Agni who's accuracy is 800mCEP!!
And we will fire shaheen-II which reach eastern border of india, in 6minutes after pressing launch button, with accuracy of 3m!
Pakistan Zindabad!!
IAF's pilots refer thier MIG-21 as flying coffins!! hahahaha
200+ lost form 1990-2000!
And your only better is Brahmos built by russians!! But its accuracy is doubtfull!!
But Pakistan's Babur is very accurate and can dodge any radar with pin-point accuracy!!
Let indian flying coffin come pakistan, we will them!!
Pakistan Zindabad!!!
WE will Bury Them!! Yeah!
Shaheen-II is built by only Pakistan's Scientists! Tell me if China's missile characteristics of this missile!!
We dont have capabilty, but we have power, this is because of US which imposed sanctions on PAF, and for 10 years PAF didn't bought any plane!!
But we are started towards the modernization and we will surpass indians by 2012!! And india knows that this is only time to attack pakistan, because after within three years PAF will have more technology and capabilities like own built AWACS and Airborne early Warning system!
Pakistan Zindabad!!
and 350 of upgraded JF-17's with more powerfull engine's.
u pakis dont speak more than that...becoz u dont know much...ur like frog in a well....which thinkks
well is everything...
open ur eyes u paki ass holes..
ohh shit pakis are speaking abt war ohh shitt how come....u want war...then why dont u face us directly istead of training those bastard jihadis...
ahaaaa ahaaa tha fact is that u are afraid of us...
why is pakistan begging everything from china ?
pak army ha ha, pajama chaap army who wears pajams with strings attached, ho-ho-ho.
Yu pakis just wait the mkis are coming
then you can hide in your mamas GREEN underwear
jai hind
if yu mullus have the gUts why do not you attacks us, rather than fighting a low cost proxy war. Come lets fight a full scale war.
then we will show you what stuff we are
AND THEN YOU TALK ABOUT GUTS>>>>haha
nuclear black mail wont work now, these are old tricks, yu pakis should think of something new trick now, it wont work, try something new man.
Show some decency guys, and I am asking both sides here; can you think of what others would think of us Subcontinentals? We would be a combined superpower by now if it wasn't for our idiocy and mutual enmity.
hasnain bhai yu are right,
indeed our mig-21s are flying coffins because when they launch there attacks
then yur khans amd mohammads wil surely need more coffins to bury yur dead.
Jai hind
hasnain bhai
yu see we have a skewed sex ratio in india
more boys, less girls
when indian army captures karchi, lahore, rawalpindi, that problem will be solved you see
I am just waiting to go to karachi to get my war booty
HUMSE JO LE PANGA HUM KARDE USKO NANGA
ha-ha-ha
jai hind
general kiyaani married his cousin sister
kiyaani ke apne ghar me maa bhen nahi ha kya jo cousin ke lene chala gaya
jai hind
sorry M. Hussain for spoiling ur article with our comments.
its a just a small aversion for them created in us .. but i know both india and pakistan are being the pupets in hands of some forgein players and being used for their personal usage.....
M Hussain ji
everyyear our gov treats more than 50 pak children FREE for heart surgeries here in india, for holes in there hearts
we know how to stich those holes
and we also know how to make some holes in the hearts of the mullahs in pak
yu guys started it, AND NOW OUR MKIs WILL END IT
YU SEE WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF TOLERATING NUISANCE HERE IN INDIA
JAI HIND
kaha mar gaye sare pakistani, ab tumari awaaz nahi nikal rahi, kya tum sab ki maa mar gahi ha kya.
jai hind
What's the diameter of the motor for Shaheen-II? What about DF-21? Both are 1.4 m!
"dont they remmember how they have been ruled for centurires by us" - Ruled by you, give me a break. Check with you father, grandfather, great grand father, anyone else you can find. You will see most of them have been busy charging 10 rupee to cut people's hair or polishing peoples' shoes. So kiddo your family didn't rule anyone...EVER.
If anyone want to see millions in dhotis just go to Haj!
Ghauri
How many Pakistanis surrendered to the Indian Army in 1971. I heard 90,000, give or take a few thousand. Hopefully not all have died of shame, and some can train your current lot of 'generals' on how to surrender to the Indian Army.
LOL
more paki lies
pakistani muslim burkha wearing terrorist fucks
go back to mecca where you belong sub human shits
M.Husain is a paki pretending to be from Bangladesh
why else would he try to be so pro paki
stupid terrorist supporting al qaeda supporter = m.husain
go back to your cave and fuck your 72 hairy virgins
Lets show them what we are really made of!
Indians by nature are submissive and coward's as I observed by living with them for over 25 years in the U.A.E. These Piss Drinking Hindu's don't have the guts to attack a nation like pakistan made up of Pathan's, Punjabi's and Baloch; and time will prove that. Hindu's have a cowadly habit of creating tensions when they see the enemy week for example during 1971 when there was a civil war in pakistan. However, these Hindu's got their asse's kicked during 1947 and 1965 as the world in particular the west isaeare of. Lastly, since pakistani missile's and nuks are more advanced than india's; we should end this conflict once and for all by anialating these piss drinking hindu's from he face of the earth. Once again time will tell; hindu's have no balls and they will not attack pakistan.
I've heard you hindu's drink your own piss. LOL What sort of a fucking religon you asshole's have worshipping Idols LOL. I mean this is the fucking 21st century. Go marry ur gurls to dogs LOL asshole; as this is pretty common in a shit country like india. Also many hindu women who can have kids often sit on a Bagwan dick in their temple hahah. I guess these fucking hindu's don't have dicks.
I'm currently fucking a married indian women. I mean these bitch open their legs faster than they exhale haha LOL. We actually don't need to kill indians; they all are going to die of Aids anyway. LOL Fucking Shit Country. And trust me; time will proove india does not have the balls to attack pakistan. Start eating some cow meat u asshole's to grow a dick LOL. Fucking animal worshippers LOL
Indian's worship Cow's. What the Fuck? Are you serious? What sort of a fucking religon is this..
Even Monkey's
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
if the conflict prolongs, PAF will lose its skies in less than 10 days. Indeed, the PAF's entire war strategy rests on an offensive strike at the heart of India's Western Air Command--as was the case in 1965--thereby disabling a great number of Indian aircrafts on the ground to establish air supremacy. The bitter truth is that the PAF only has about three dozen truly world class fighter planes--the F-16 Fighting Falcon--and from them, only a few are the latest block 52 fighters. The rest are ageing aircrafts acquired between 20 and 25 years ago and are not an even a match for the Su-30s and are outnumbered by the MiG 29s. After the F-16s, we have Mirage IIIs and Mirage Vs. The earliest of these were received more than 37 years ago. The later models--Mirage Vs--are more capable and the PAF has through its rebuild factory in Kamra managed to keep these planes in good flying condition, by cannibalising a great number of them for spares. Pakistan also relies heavily on F-7Ps, the Chinese version of the Soviet MiG-21, which India uses as its most dispensable plane. The JF-17--rumoured to now have a production cost of $17 million per unit--is still years away from becoming the PAF's mainstay. There are other planes, including a solitary surviving squadron of the MiG-19, or F-6 as it is called, its A-5 variant ground attack air craft, FT-5 (a variant of MiG-17), the jet trainer K-8 and the Super Mushak, but these would be of little consequence in a full-blown conflict. Pitting against these planes is a wide range of aircrafts, including, but not limited to, Su-30s, Mirage-2000s, MiG-29s, MiG-27s, MiG-23s and MiG-21s which makes the IAF a formidable nemesis even in the hands of mediocre or below-average pilots.
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
A nation of Cow and Monkey worshippers is going to attack pakistan hahahaha LOL... I have to c this during my lifetime...LOL
we pray cows and monkey and we also pray jesus and
we go to mosques too...we are proud of it u apki ass holes... i have already told u ...pakis are stupid assholes...its proven againn..
Every one knows who is feeding terrorists in pakistan, to act against pakistan!!
We are more bigger victim of terrorism!! If u are saying that pak is aiding these terrorists to attack india, then u must should agree that india is also providing finance to these terrorists to fight against pak army!!
""What's the diameter of the motor for Shaheen-II? What about DF-21? Both are 1.4 m!""
Quote
Df-21 = length 10.7m, weight 600kg, range 1750km
Shaheen-II = length 17.5m, weight 25,000kg, range 2500km
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaheen-II
Now tell me is there any match b/w them??
And let me know if there is any chinese missile, like shaheen-II.
aa
Indians by nature are submissive and coward's as I observed by living with them for over 25 years in the U.A.E. These Piss Drinking Hindu's don't have the guts to attack a nation like pakistan made up of Pathan's, Punjabi's and Baloch; and time will prove that. Hindu's have a cowadly habit of creating tensions when they see the enemy week for example during 1971 when there was a civil war in pakistan. However, these Hindu's got their asse's kicked during 1947 and 1965 as the world in particular the west isaeare of. Lastly, since pakistani missile's and nuks are more advanced than india's; we should end this conflict once and for all by anialating these piss drinking hindu's from he face of the earth. Once again time will tell; hindu's have no balls and they will not attack pakistan. I'm currently fucking a married indian women. I mean these bitch open their legs faster than they exhale haha LOL. We actually don't need to kill indians; they all are going to die of Aids anyway. LOL Fucking Shit Country. And trust me; time will proove india does not have the balls to attack pakistan. Start eating some cow meat u asshole's to grow a dick LOL. Fucking animal worshippers LOL
dont repeat the same thing u paki ass holes..try something else
The Pakistanis are so bankrupt, I hear that for everything they need they have to sell the backsides of their men, women, children and animals to their brothers from Arabia. With their backsides in so much pain from repeated attacks, how can the Pakistani pilots expected to defend the country. Time for India to stop taking pity on the sad state of Pakistan and really put them out of their misery. On the other hand, I also heard that Pakistani men and boys enjoy having their backsides ridden by their Arabian brothers and the women and girls prefer it to the girlie behaviour of their own Pakistani men.
Since the Pahtuns and Balochis are in open revolt against the Punjan dominated Pakistani state, conditions are ripe for India to do a repeat of 1971. Must remember to send a pen and some ink in the post to Kiyani, so that he can practice signing the surrender documents.
hey Pahtuns,Balochis ,Punjan ...check out the news taliban is threating ur families to send ur girls to marry their taliban army men...... makes sure that u dont send ur wives to them
Living in Pakistan and reading about it in the Indian press can sometimes be quite a disorienting experience: one wonders what place on earth
they're talking about? I wouldn't be surprised if an Indian reader going through Pakistani papers has asked the same question in recent days. Here are some common assumptions about Pakistan and its citizens that I have come across in the Indian media...
Pakistan controls the jihadis: Or Pakistan's government controls the jihadis. Or Pakistan Army controls the jihadis. Or ISI controls the jihadis. Or some rogue elements from the ISI control the Jihadis. Nobody knows the whole truth but increasingly it's the tail that wags the dog. We must remember that the ISI-Jihadi alliance was a marriage of convenience, which has broken down irrevocably. Pakistan army has lost more soldiers at the hands of these jihadis than it ever did fighting India.
Musharraf was in control, Zardari is not: Let's not forget that General Musharraf seized power after he was fired from his job as the army chief by an elected prime minister. Musharraf first appeased jihadis, then bombed them, and then appeased them again. The country he left behind has become a very dangerous place, above all for its own citizens. There is a latent hankering in sections of the Indian middle class for a strongman. Give Manmohan Singh a military uniform, put all the armed forces under his direct command, make his word the law of the land, and he too will go around thumping his chest saying that it's his destiny to save India from Indians . Zardari will never have the kind of control that Musharraf had. But Pakistanis do not want another Musharraf.
Pakistan, which Pakistan? For a small country, Pakistan is very diverse, not only ethnically but politically as well. General Musharraf's government bombed Pashtuns in the north for being Islamists and close to the Taliban and at the same time it bombed Balochs in the South for NOT being Islamists and for subscribing to some kind of retro-socialist, anti Taliban ethos. You have probably heard the joke about other countries having armies but Pakistan's army having a country. Nobody in Pakistan finds it funny.
Pakistan and its loose nukes: Pakistan's nuclear programme is under a sophisticated command and control system, no more under threat than India or Israel's nuclear assets are threatened by Hindu or Jewish extremists. For a long time Pakistan's security establishment's other strategic asset was jihadi organisations, which in the last couple of years have become its biggest liability.
Pakistan is a failed state: If it is, then Pakistanis have not noticed. Or they have lived in it for such a long time that they have become used to its dysfunctional aspects. Trains are late but they turn up, there are more VJs, DJs, theatre festivals, melas, and fashion models than a failed state can accommodate. To borrow a phrase from President Zardari, there are lots of non-state actors like Abdul Sattar Edhi who provide emergency health services, orphanages and shelters for sick animals.
It is a deeply religious country: Every half-decent election in this country has proved otherwise. Religious parties have never won more than a fraction of popular vote. Last year Pakistan witnessed the largest civil rights movements in the history of this region. It was spontaneous, secular and entirely peaceful. But since people weren't raising anti-India or anti-America slogans, nobody outside Pakistan took much notice.
All Pakistanis hate India: Three out of four provinces in Pakistan - Sindh, Baluchistan, NWFP - have never had any popular anti-India sentiment ever. Punjabis who did impose India as enemy-in-chief on Pakistan are now more interested in selling potatoes to India than destroying it. There is a new breed of al-Qaida inspired jihadis who hate a woman walking on the streets of Karachi as much as they hate a woman driving a car on the streets of Delhi. In fact there is not much that they do not hate: they hate America, Denmark, China CDs, barbers, DVDs , television, even football. Imran Khan recently said that these jihadis will never attack a cricket match but nobody takes him seriously.
Training camps: There are militant sanctuaries in the tribal areas of Pakistan but definitely not in Muzaffarabad or Muridke, two favourite targets for Indian journalists, probably because those are the cities they have ever been allowed to visit. After all how much training do you need if you are going to shoot at random civilians or blow yourself up in a crowded bazaar? So if anyone thinks a few missiles targeted at Muzaffarabad will teach anyone a lesson, they should switch off their TV and try to locate it on the map.
RAW would never do what ISI does: Both the agencies have had a brilliant record of creating mayhem in the neighbouring countries. Both have a dismal record when it comes to protecting their own people. There is a simple reason that ISI is a bigger, more notorious brand name: It was CIA's franchise during the jihad against the Soviets. And now it's busy doing jihad against those very jihadis.
Pakistan is poor, India is rich: Pakistanis visiting India till the mid-eighties came back very smug. They told us about India's slums, and that there was nothing to buy except handicrafts and saris. Then Pakistanis could say with justifiable pride that nobody slept hungry in their country. But now, not only do people sleep hungry in both the countries, they also commit suicide because they see nothing but a lifetime of hunger ahead. A debt-ridden farmer contemplating suicide in Maharashtra
and a mother who abandons her children in Karachi because she can't feed them: this is what we have achieved in our mutual desire to teach each other a lesson
HMM nice article!!
Lets get a few things straight:
- The most powerful institution in Pakistan is the army; the army's interests, or its perceived interests, alays take precedence
- The army's political and diplomatic wing is the ISI (a bit like Sinn Fein and the IRA)
- The Taliban, LeT, and JeM (to name a few) are all organisations sponsored and controlled by the Pakistani Army through the ISI
- The Taliban, Lashkar-e-Tayeba, and Jaish-e-Muhammad (to name a few) commit terrorist acts in Afghanistan and India on behalf of their controllers in the ISI / Pakistan Army
- The Pakistan Army and the Pakistani state are terrorist organisations, as well as nuclear proliferators (for which the US will punish Pakistan very severely, when the time is ripe)
- The civilian government in Pakistan is a facade with no (nil / zero) power over the Pakistan Army and its sponsored terrorist organisations
- In the mid80s Pakistan was richer than India. Now India is much richer than Pakistan, and the gap is growing exponentially
- India is universally (even by sensible Pakistanis) regarded as a functioning secular democracy with a great economic, cultural and political future
- Pakistan is a failed state, on life support from US aid and IMF loans, and it has no future; Pakistan's name is mud all over the world and its leaders and its army is utterly despised by all right thinking people around the world
- The Indian cricket team is vastly superior to the Pakistan cricket team
LOL!
U r saying failed state to a country who have the criuse missile babur, only two countries of world have missile like this!! And pak's missile and nuke tech is much superior then india!! Bcoz india is buying missile from russia and israel!!
And u are saying that taliban is controlled by pak army,
Taliban has killed more then 13,000+ pak soldiers in last few years, itnay to india nay bhi nahi maray 4 wars main, even India hasn't killed 13,000 of pak soldiers in three wars with pakistan!! I am telling u your brains are washed by your media!! After one hour of mumbai attacks the media was started blaming pakistan!!
You cant control 10peoples who attacked mumbai, then tell me how can u control 11 lac pak army!!
please get on well with your neighbours and you might have long and prosper life. Have we not learnt anything from life that we spend our resources buying metal to cause suffering to our fellow man and when we have become wise we might learn to love and respect ourselves .
Your fellow earthling
soul
brothers,
i have also a Indian girl friend here in UK and she is living wid me, and her parents back home dont know that their daughter is being fucked by a PAKI....... she is damn hot i swear.... believe me she dont like fuckin black skin, shiva cocksuckers... she hates indian guys..
everyday night when i fuck her i say jai Hind...iii girls...
Grow up and do not get to primitive level obviously you are not a muslim with this conversation and life style
porki day dreaming at extream...
porki's barber missile...repainted chinese missile...
Where the Indian equvilants of Pakistani are made modern ALCM with range of 350 km+ and GLCM Babur with range of 700 km+ both of which have a CEP of less then 3 meters?
Where the Indian equivalents of Pakistani are made H-2 with 60 km range and H-4 with 120 km PGMs both of which carry terminal guided targeting system to get CEP of 3 meter (some times called Pakistani version of SA Rapter-I/II or MUPSOW)??
The first long range PGM to be developed under Project H-4 was a 120km-range surgical missile armed with high-explosive runway-cratering bomblets, as well as a passive radiation seeker for targeting hostile ground-based air defence radars. This is according to some news is a derivative of the Rapter-I/II MUPSOW PGM that has been under development by Kentron since the early 1990s and incorporates twin side-mounted air intakes and fixed horizontal and vertical tailfins. Thus far, the PAF has conducted two successful qualification flights of the H-4 PGM , these being done on April 22 and December 17, in 2003.
Question to you is why Pakistan air force went to upgrade its mirages with Grifo-M radar and test were of missiles were made in sea in times when our relations with SA were really good??And why did not PAF bought F-8 BVR capabe aircraft from china when offered??
Military industrial cooperation between Pakistan and South Africa dates back to the mid-1990s when the PAF sought Denel Aerospace's expertise for developing a family of precision-guided munitions for ground attack as well as a family of air combat missiles. In February 1996, soon after the PAF concluded a US$50 million deal with Italy's Galileo Avionica for the supply of 30 Grifo-M3 airborne multi-mode pulse-Doppler radars for the upgraded Mirage IIIEAs, contractual negotiations began on a $160 million contract with Kentron to cover the licenced-production by AERO of the latter's U-Darter within-visual-range air-to-air missile (a reverse-engineered R550 Magic-2 missile developed by MBDA). Following this, the PAF by April 1999 had commenced contractual negotiations with Denel Aerospace for co-development of a beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) under a project codenamed H-2. Flight tests of the BVRAAM got underway in 2001 and the resultant missile is now the AERO-produced variant of Kentron's BVRAAM R-Darter missile, which in turn is a derivative of the Derby BVRAAM developed by Israel's RAFAEL Armament Authority.Denel radar-guided R-Darter, which is virtually the same missile as the Israeli Aircraft Industries Derby. The product of Israeli and South African cooperation during the 1980s and 1990s, the R-Darter has a light weight of 120kg and reported range of 60km.
F-7PG with Grifo-7PG radar can carry and F-7M/P with Grifo-7 can carry this beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) developed under a project codenamed H-2
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PAF gets bombs for "beyond visual range'' targets
ISLAMABAD, Dec 18: Pakistan's air force has been equipped with a new bomb for hitting targets beyond the visual range, a news report said today.
The H-4 bomb gives PAF the capability to evade enemy radar and hit an out-of-sight target from a distance of 120 kilometres, the daily newspaper Dawn reported, quoting official sources.
"It is a step towards adding the BVR (Beyond Visual Range) missiles to our arsenal for defensive purposes and to address the strategic imbalance in the region," the sources said.
A lighter version of the bomb, the H-2, can hit out-of-sight targets from a distance of 60 kilometres, the report said.
According to the newspaper the bombs have been produced by the national engineering and scientific commission, the Pakistan missile organization and the air weapons complex by modifying the design of the South African T-darter BVR missiles. (DPA)
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/web1/03dec19/inter.htm#6
The first 40 F-16A/Bs of Block 15 configuration came along with 500 AIM-7F Sparrows and and equal number of AIM-9L Sidewinders. Also included in this package were 20 ALQ-131 jamming pods and an equal no of ATLIS-2 laser designator pods for the Mk82 laser-guided bombs and AS-30L laser-guided air-to-ground PGMs. US Defence Security Cooperation Agency's notification of June 1986 to the US Congress contains additional details.
Currently PAF have about 200 combat aircraft capable of BVR air combat engagements by 2010. 34 F-16s curently are able to fire only AIM-7F Sparrows. The 32 that are now undergoing MLU upgrades and the new-build ones will be able to fire the AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM. About 100 F-7Ps Grifo-7 radar will be able to fire the and 60 F-7PGs Grifo-7PG radar will be able to fire beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) developed under a project codenamed H-2. The JF-17 and Fc-20 is now being qualified with air-to-ground weapons and from 2010 onwards it will be armed with the PL-12 and PL-9C AAMs
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The bitter truth is that the PAF only has about three dozen truly world class fighter planes--the F-16 Fighting Falcon--and from them, only a few are the latest block 52 fighters.
PAF currently have no Block 52+ F-16s
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Su-30s and the Mirage 2000s and their beyond-visual-range Astra missiles, an Indian pilot today doesn't need to be adept at dogfight or gunnery to blow our planes out of the sky
SO far only ground testing of the Astra missile motor was done and it still need lots and lots of testing before it will be capable to deployment. Astra has yet to be ready for air testings of missile motor befor actualy can be tested for reaal interception tests. It is yet to receive its guidnesss package from MBDA and now news are appearing that Astra AAM will be using the Russian AGAT JSC-built active seeker, instead of the one developed by MBDA for the Mica-EM so you can expect mmore and more delays in yeas and decades to come
Astra BVRAAM is no more then a Akash Medium range surface-to-air missile or Trishul short range surface-to-air missile ( both of which are rejected by indian airforce And indian navy due to lack of performance), Nag "Fire-and-forget" anti-tank missile ( Only NAG ATGM was able to achieve few of its designed objectives indian army have forget nag and its designed team will soon be fired )or BrahMos is a supersonic cruise missile that is nothing more than indian painted version of russian P-800 Oniks / Yakhont that will now not be tested upon the SU-30MKI as it is too heavy and lacks the capabilities of modern ALCM like RAAD and other Indian projects that were super duper capable but their own armed forcees are not happy to get that super heavy junk which is world only cruise missile that need to fly @ 14000m+ hight to have a range of 280km at low flight its range is only 120km @1.4 mach
India have yet to start the up gradation of Mirage-2000H which are currently india's most capable PGM (Laser-guided bomb) strike carrier with the help of Israel.So far it is equipped with ancient Matra Super 530 medium-range semi-active radar-guided air-to-air missile with very limited performance. Even after such upgrades its air to air weaponry will be limited to derby BVRAAM from Israel similar to south African R-Darter and less capable the T-Darter which was offered to Pakistan air force for its upgraded Mirage-III ROSE-I , F-7MP/P/PGs and JF-17 in late nineties.
As pointed out by the Munir that Indian MiG-29 are the oldest version of MIG-29 series and under current plans IAF will perform limited upgrade to make them capable of carrying R-77 in future and after watching the pace of Indian upgrade program it looks that it will take at least an other decade to do so. In its current form it can only carry Vympel R-27 Semi-active radar guided AAM whose super performance in Africa wars is known to the whole world
Out of 120 odd MIG-27s only 40 odd will go through limited up gradation in future to provide them some of the modern ground strike capabilities until then they have very basic PGM capability.
Majority of Mig-23 are about to be retired next year or so and will see not up gradation program.
Out of 300 odd mig-21s only 125 got up gradation and are called bison. These were equipped with the R-77 which was only tested by bison @18-20km at most and never was tested at BVR ranges. Out of which 4-5 bison already got tired and took early retirement with their pilots. Even these upgraded Bison are less capable in air to air fight when compared to our F-7PG
Yes PAF is currently lacking behind from IAF in some aspects of warfare but it is not a one sided game yet as PAFs strike weapons are much more advance then that of IAF and even this BVR advantage of IAF will end in next two to four years as PAF will field 46-60 F-16s AM/BM MLU(as capable as Block 52 in term of avionics capability) and18 F-16s C/D Block 52+ with AIM-120 C-5 BVRAAM which will be able to out perform R-77, 36-40 Fc-20 with SD-10A BVRAAM which will be able to out perform R-77 and 100 odd JF-17 with SD-10A/Mica BVRAAM ( both of which will be able to out perform R-77)
guys, why u r burning ur blood for these idiots they don't have brains at all I seen here is all these pakis just thinking under the waist because they always get fucked up first by britishers then american now chines and now talibani so they are frusted so will talk nonsense .India need not prove these f****.We have already shown them up thrice so one more time again as they are wishing to get fucked this timeby indians
These stupid education of Paks has made them beasts and racists. From this article I found that most of them are not open minded and I felt the same in case of some Paks whom I met in life... I feel the Indian Followers of Islam are thousand times better and much more tolerant. You fools Hinduism is not about Cow or monkey or vegetarian... it is about self-realization. Realize the happiness and truth in yourself. Karma (your actions) will show you the hell or heaven in your life. I don't mean disrespect Allah but I hate your discipline and radical to thoughts of humanity.
May we curse you in the name of Allah that you belief perish soon.
yu pakis keep telling us we do not have the balls, well just wait for sometime, then yu can put this question to your mom and sister who would by then have enough experience of seeing the balls of indian solders when the indian army comes and conquers your cities. then you can put this question to your mom and sister MOMA WHAT SIZE WAS THE INDIAN BALLS. HA HA.
Jai hind
Regarding the fact that we indians have the balls to attack pakistan or not you see in all the last 3 wars that we won, our soldiers were not allowed to rape your woman, if it had been so then you pakis mother and grandmothers would have surely told the next generation WHAT KIND OF BALLS WE HAVE.
jai hind
If India is so powerful vis-a-vis Pakistan, then why doesn't it attack Pakistan?
At the end of the day india wouldn't dare attack because they know that the moment they do, they would soon getting infested by tribes men who would literally eat every indian soldier alive. I mean these guys are what you call real men. this coupled with the pakistani military would be an incontrolable situation for the indians. You guys have too much to lose. you economy would cripple( just what some western powers want) and both countries would be devestated (more so india) and it would just be a losing situation for you guys. So india attacking is a definate know. And i'm sure Mr mukarjeeee knows that hes nation would get shafted if the started a war (thus he is backing down).
You indian know that this bombay drama was an internal job. But you just won't admit it because either you are to drunk or you are just lazy and ignorant.
The story is always the same....a few random kids somehow get past the security of the "superpower" India and cause so much trouble that the whole military infrastructure of India has to be mobilized. As many have said, before you bhindians look to Pakistan remember that 10 kids kept your special ed forces running in circles for days. If you want to attack, please be my guest...while we will fight you to a stalemate....if there is even an inkling of us losing, please remove Hanuman and whicever other animal you worship from your cities because there will be some early diwali fireworks courtesy of our ghauri's and shaheens.
So you guys keep having your wet dreams of hurting us....in reality you know that you can't win and win probably lose everything.
Still thinking How these brainless paki dickheads are surviving, Strongly suggest Pakis to get there statistics right.
Pakis lost 3 out of 4 wars already.. if they wage one more i'm sure they will be definitely bombed back to stone age by India.
i should talk about the article first
M. Hussain, i would like to tell u that PAK is not going to come any where near the power of IAF in future . let me tel u why so
1. India is buying 126 fighters which may be F-16 F 18 u know americans are not willing to give figters to pak pending f-16 for which pak cries day and night
2.india has a better econmy , thus a good buying power
3.India is working on lca and making it on its own rather then pak has to go to china for each and every thing. so u can se the tech. gap b/w the two .
LET US TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF IAF AND PAK.
U NEED TO KNOW THE FACTS
1. IAF has 100 su-30 one of the best in the world 4.5 generation fighter that to NEW and u r commparing them to 20-25yrs old F16 that to only 44 in no.
2.U need to know that IAF has advance features like mid-air-fueling so india can fly the figter from any where no need of active front line bases but u need to know india has the power of blowing out pak airbases.
3.U need to know india has reached moon still pak can dream of it though the same tech which is used in AGNI. i dont know why u r taking it lightly
This is what I call faction writing. Take a fact and add some fiction and then make people beleive in you.
1) "Pakistan on the other hand has no problems recruiting pilots – the PAF has one of the highest rejection rates amongst air forces in the world." - Reason: Pakistan has no jobs to offer to its youths thats why every uneducated youth wants to join the PAF, why dont you share some statistics about why they were rejected?
If this article came from Jane's I would have given some credence.
pakistan earned money first and think of war later.nation in brink of bankrupcy still boasting . in wat world are u pakis living ,i wonder??????????????????
the fact is that its not the matter that in war india wins or losses but the question is how long pak can resist to india. India is certainly going to win no question about that.
what we need to think that pak is having internal problems 1. weak gov.
2. powerfull extremists
pak will turn into next afghanistan well we can see that it is already moveing in the direction but a war will make the procedure very fast and a very few pakistanis who are still fighting for there war will lose the outcome of it as follow
1. no gov. in pak only tribes
2. no occupation
3. no food but arms and ammunations present
4. no t.v, no radio, no movies
5 infact no internet thus no comments
6 no pakistan but small tribes having small areas
So pakistani needs war with india or pakistan ???????
Better stop sending poor and misdirected people to india.
I read the commets posted and found that a few over enthusiastic pakistani wrote "You indian know that this bombay drama was an internal job"
i dont know that they are living in which world The pakistan goverment is accepting the fact my friend do start reading newspapers and watching t.v i think that would help u a lot....
For Bhindians, we ruled for 1000 years & will rule please learn from history, what you can do is chankiyas philosophy that is it making insurgencies in pakistan and week the opponent that is what you did in 71 & now doing you can not fight a war bravely. live with peace with you neighbors Long live Pakistan
Dickhead Pakis are already in a bigtime mess nothing working for them both politically and economically. Pokishtaaaaan will not survive if these adabullies support jihad and extremism.
Pakistan will get destroyed in 2020 why should we bother about them, let them die on their own.
The fact remains that after all the "shor o ghul" in the Indian media following the Bombay incident and pronouncements from various Indian government ministers that Pakistan would have to pay - INDIA DID NOTHING!
Of course this has been "spun" as proof that Iidia is a peace loving country.
If this were so then what on earth were all the belligerent statements and war hysteria in aid of?
Without being partisan, the bottom line is that with both countries armed with nukes neither country, I repeat NEITHER country is going to want to start a war.
The more sensible on BOTH SIDES of the border understand this very well.
so many comments would hardly be necessary if the Indians didn't think the PAF was up to scratch
well paki dogs will bark everywhere they will go? one thing i wanna say to barking paki mullahs that barking dogs never bites, assholes even ur PAF chief has conveyed message to ur president zardari that PAF wont even last for a week against IAF,
ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has warned the nation’s civilian leadership that in case of an armed conflict with India, PAF could lose its skies within a week.
In a secret report, the air force has told president Asif Ali Zardari, who is also commander-in-chief of the armed forces, that PAF’s entire war strategy rests on a strike at the heart of India’s western air command - as was the case in 1965. Which means, disabling a great number of Indian aircraft before they take off to establish supremacy in the air.
The report points out the bitter fact that PAF only has about three dozen truly world-class fighter planes — F-16 Fighting Falcons — and of them, only a handful are the latest block-52 fighters. The remaining are ageing aircraft acquired 20-25 years ago.
These are not even a match for Su-30s and are outnumbered by MiG-29s.
After F-16s, the PAF report points out, Pakistan has Mirage-IIIs and Mirage-Vs. The fact, however, remains the earliest of these were received over 37 years ago. Pakistan also relies heavily on F-7Ps, the Chinese version of the Soviet MiG-21s, which currently is India’s most dispensable plane.
JF-17s, rumoured to have a production cost of $17 million per unit, are still years from becoming PAF’s mainstay. There are other planes, including a solitary surviving squadron of MiG-19, or F-6, as it is called, its A-5 variant ground attack aircraft, FT-5 (a variant of MiG-17), the jet trainer K-8 and the Super Mushak, but these would be of little consequence in a full-blown conflict.
Pitting against these planes is a wide range of aircraft, including but not limited to, Su-30s, Mirage-2000s, MiG-29s, MiG-27s, MiG-23s and MiG-21s, which make the Indian Air Force a formidable nemesis.
[b]daily routine of a Pakistani in Pakistan[/b]
1. wake up in madrasa at 5 AM
2. wid allah till 6 a.m
3. strip ur AK and polish it nd breakfast..7am
4 wipes his immam's ass till 8 am
5 immam check's his chopped dick and tells him abt the 72 virgin story ..9am
6. radical teaching starts , our religion is da best fuck the rest, kill hindus,jews, english, 12am
7.allah hi la hu akbar 1 pm
8.bathing time while immam humps a village girl 2 pm
9. practice firing into a picture of flags on india, us and israel at3 pm
10. collect money frm different places for jehad 6 pm
11. allah hi la hu akbar....7 pm
12.gives collected money to immam and unloads the porkastani military truck loaded with AK ammo and other supplies....9 pm
13.takes dinner mashed potato while immam chews the leg of a roasted goat...10 pm
14.allah hi la hu akbar.....11 pm after tht porki goes to sleep and the cycle follows
yeh hai tumhari asliyat...
I hate pakistan , i think pakistanis have a complex because they like their mullahs too much (i think sexually). the muslim must be pushed away from pakistan into the arabian sea. since they owe their allegiance to mecca or fucca as i like to call it pukis will love it in muslim land. think about it, the pakis pulling each others beards and talking amongst themselves how pure their religion is and how mohammed screwed little underaged girls.
that seems like paradise to me. i think we as Indians and followers or Hinduism, Sikkhism and Buddhism need to eradicate this cancer of Pakistan from the sub-continent. islam has brought nothing but negative development, poverty and terrorism. this is the islamic contribution to modernity and the sub-continent. it would be much better if we tie their beards together and burn them in front of their children.
islam is a false religion. it was started by the devil to create hate and war amongst humans. too bad it has spread so much. it is like the plague, we need to act fast and throw away the muslim.
i thought the danish cartoons were fantastic and i applaud Israel's treatment of the pathetic muslim palestinians (or shall we call them beggars now). I also applaud Modi and his attitude towards muslims.
Most people, in India or the West hate muslims. It is only the muslim stinker who thinks that his religion is so popular and loved around the world. another thing about islamic stinkers is that mohammed has made his followers puppets and obstinate dogs. it will be a great day when a nuke is dropped down on pukistan.
Long Live Israel, Long Live India, Long Live America
Death to Pakistani People
daily routine of a Pakistani in Pakistan
1. wake up in madrasa at 5 AM
2. wid allah till 6 a.m
3. strip ur AK and polish it nd breakfast..7am
4 wipes his immam's ass till 8 am
5 immam check's his chopped dick and tells him abt the 72 virgin story ..9am
6. radical teaching starts , our religion is da best fuck the rest, kill hindus,jews, english, 12am
7.allah hi la hu akbar 1 pm
8.bathing time while immam humps a village girl 2 pm
9. practice firing into a picture of flags on india, us and israel at3 pm
10. collect money frm different places for jehad 6 pm
11. allah hi la hu akbar....7 pm
12.gives collected money to immam and unloads the porkastani military truck loaded with AK ammo and other supplies....9 pm
13.takes dinner mashed potato while immam chews the leg of a roasted goat...10 pm
14.allah hi la hu akbar.....11 pm after tht porki goes to sleep and the cycle follows
yeh hai tumhari asliyat...
Indian's can win this war even without firing a shot.Take example of what happened in 2001.By sheer strategic movement of troops along the border, 3 Pakistani divisions went without pay.To add to this, they were left with fuel supplies to last them 6 days.Do you think under these circumstances, they will be waging war against India. A nation that is so obssessed with India, has never focussed on developing its economy, life of people and has always been dependent on dole outs from US and other Islamic countries to sustain itself.
Pakistanis forget that it is not because of war a nation is considered as strong.It is purely the economic strength, life of people and credibility that calls for respect of a nation. Indians have produced Doctors, scientists, administrators that also are a part of close network of the US govt,UK govt, German govt, French govt. How many Pakistani's do they have?.guns and missiles have never won hearts.They have instilled more of insecurity. India feels insecure as it cannot see Pakistan fall into Taliban hands.It does not want people of Lahore,Karachi to have a doomed future.
When it comes to war, history has it before the world, we also know how to defend and butcher.People who write about a nuclear war forget that the outcome will affect generations in their country and ours too.It will be better for Pakistanis to focus on stability, strong self reliant economy and have intellectuals lead them. A good example is General Musharraf. Though he is strongly anti-Indian but he can bring stability and improved economy to Pakistan. He has done in the past by his focussed approach.
Who the hell told u that 3 Pak divisions went without pay? Pakistan looked the Indian bully straight in the eye after 2001 and 26/11. India's spirit is too shallow. And let me remind u that it is India who is the war monger, not Pakistan. Just look at your hypocrisy when u say that Pakistan is sponsoring terrorism in India. India is actively funding terrorists in Pakistan's norther areas and even an Americn journalist acknowledged that. Why does India have a quarrel with each of itd neighbours? Can't India grow up?
hahahaha..........
Just look at the top secret report. The fact that India's state of the art Mirage 2000s were locked on and forced to flee by PAF F-16s is testimony to the fact that India is a paper tiger. India should seriously GROW UP!
ALLH Randi ka pilla
ABU TALIB randi ka pilla
FATIMA mata ka Bhosada maar lo
ALLAH gandu ki gaad mari Muslims nai
PORKI soldiers ki maa ka Bhosada
ALLH ki maa randi
HALIMA mata mera Lund Chusti hai
I love Boobs of KHADIJAH mata
SALMAi mata mera sperm piti hai
MOLAJATT ki mai daily GAAD marta hu
AWWAM randi ka pilla
MUHAMMED ABUTALIB ka Laudha chusti hai
AISHA AFZAL ka Laudha chusti hai
2 pistol te 1 gun
alla h di maa nu lun.
2 pukheyn te 1 malang
fatima di phen? nu lun.
2 sitary te 1 chann
aisha di waddi nu lun
40 killo da 1 mann
muhham mme d di kurri nu lun.
2 ankhain te 2 kan
pakistan di khadijahmatta nu lun.
if u don't forward this sub porkis ki bund which ghadhe da lun!!
SIMPLE MATH:
8000+ madrasas in Pak
If 50 students graduate/ madrasa every year - we have: 50 x 8000+ = 400000+ islamic student pass outs / year
Suppose just 5% follow the route of Terrorism or Talibanistation or Wahabhism, we have- (400000 x 5)/100 = 200,000
RESULT : Thanks to Saudi funded madrasa growth compounded by lack of good Paki Public educational system PAKISTAN PRODUCES 200,000 TALIBAN STYLED EXTREMISTS EVERY YEAR BY THE MOST CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
ALLH Randi ka pilla
ABU TALIB randi ka pilla
FATIMA mata ka Bhosada maar lo
ALLAH gandu ki gaad mari Muslims nai
PORKI soldiers ki maa ka Bhosada
ALLH ki maa randi
HALIMA mata mera Lund Chusti hai
I love Boobs of KHADIJAH mata
SALMAi mata mera sperm piti hai
MOLAJATT ki mai daily GAAD marta hu
AWWAM randi ka pilla
MUHAMMED ABUTALIB ka Laudha chusti hai
AISHA AFZAL ka Laudha chusti hai
ALLH Randi ka pilla
ABU TALIB randi ka pilla
FATIMA mata ka Bhosada maar lo
ALLAH gandu ki gaad mari Muslims nai
PORKI soldiers ki maa ka Bhosada
ALLH ki maa randi
HALIMA mata mera Lund Chusti hai
I love Boobs of KHADIJAH mata
SALMAi mata mera sperm piti hai
MOLAJATT ki mai daily GAAD marta hu
AWWAM randi ka pilla
MUHAMMED ABUTALIB ka Laudha chusti hai
AISHA AFZAL ka Laudha chusti hai
ALLH Randi ka pilla
ABU TALIB randi ka pilla
FATIMA mata ka Bhosada maar lo
ALLAH gandu ki gaad mari Muslims nai
PORKI soldiers ki maa ka Bhosada
ALLH ki maa randi
HALIMA mata mera Lund Chusti hai
I love Boobs of KHADIJAH mata
SALMAi mata mera sperm piti hai
MOLAJATT ki mai daily GAAD marta hu
AWWAM randi ka pilla
MUHAMMED ABUTALIB ka Laudha chusti hai
AISHA AFZAL ka Laudha chusti hai
translation of the above:
An Indian hindu gentleman is swearing at Muslims and calling God, Muhammad and various Muslims by the worst possible names.
b]daily routine of a Pakistani in Pakistan[/b]
1. wake up in madrasa at 5 AM
2. wid allah till 6 a.m
3. strip ur AK and polish it nd breakfast..7am
4 wipes his immam's ass till 8 am
5 immam check's his chopped dick and tells him abt the 72 virgin story ..9am
6. radical teaching starts , our religion is da best fuck the rest, kill hindus,jews, english, 12am
7.allah hi la hu akbar 1 pm
8.bathing time while immam humps a village girl 2 pm
9. practice firing into a picture of flags on india, us and israel at3 pm
10. collect money frm different places for jehad 6 pm
11. allah hi la hu akbar....7 pm
12.gives collected money to immam and unloads the porkastani military truck loaded with AK ammo and other supplies....9 pm
13.takes dinner mashed potato while immam chews the leg of a roasted goat...10 pm
14.allah hi la hu akbar.....11 pm after tht porki goes to sleep and the cycle follows
yeh hai tumhari asliyat...
2/18/2009
band karo bhai yeh sab.................
there i no doubt pakistan is one of the best force in the world, and it is proved in the previous wars. specially after mumbai attacks when iaf tried to attack the paf challange them and they ran away like cowards. it is in the knowledge of every one that the crash ratio of iaf is highest in the world
yeah pak is 1 of d best (TERRORIST) force in d world
pakki sucks
JAI HIND
its funny why you all have been blogging all these articles and facts and figures....everyone knows who will whip whose ass...so pakis stop blogging and wasting ur time ....check ur front door....an indian is screwing ur bride...our agni just defamed ur shaheen...lolzzzzzz....mission complete...area secured ...
o u all indian ass hoes....................come to the nuclear technolgy .........................u ppl are proud of your nuclear warheads are not able to be compared with pakistani nuclear warhead in technology or in any other characteristices.......................your own officials are worried of not getting the desiered results of nuclear blasts..............AND THE MOST IMP THNG IS THAT YOUR ARMED FORCES CONSIST OF COWARDS,U WILL SEE THEY WILL RAN AT THE TIME OF NEED WHILE PAKISTAN ARMED FORCES ARE LESS IN AMOUNT THEN YOURS BUT THEY HAVE JAZBA E JAHAD................WHAT U DNT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS...................................................
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
the whole world come to see handia ?tourists?no they come to india to fuck indian women for ruppes 50 only.we pakistanis once goes to bangkok now we find hindu women so cheap. you bastards handians your women are being fucking by british,americans,israelis and of course by pakistanis,
100% aggree with u,I my self fucked 14 indian girls in 14 days during my last visit to mummay bai [mumbai then my visa expired.
SHUT THE FUCK UP JUST BECAUSE UR A FUCKING BASTARD AND IDIOT PAKISTANI LOSER AND FUCKING MUSLIM ASS AND WHAT WILL ALLAH DO IF HE IS A TERRORIST AND INDIA IS WORLD SUPERIOR HAHA SUCK DAT MOTHER FUCKER FUCK YOU BECAUSE UR A MUSLIM AND PAKISTANI AND I AM AUSTRALIAN TAKE THAT MOTHER FUCKA NOW BEG FROM JESUS YOU FUCKING IDIOT A LOT OF FUCKS FROM YOU JUST PLAY COUNTER STRIKE AND YOU WILL REALSE HOW S
u fucking indians have nothing to do, do u?
whts with the cursing muslims? even egypt can beat up half of india and pakistanis can beat up an airforce which is a thousandfold of iaf
u think ur pure peacefull people, u drink pig piss and rape cows, and kill muslim children living in india
yar why to fight jab all these pakistanis r our bachas most of the pakistanis r indian only they just changed there religion to muslims .if u find a DNA survey 90%of pkistani people were hindus only they converted there religion to islam..small story as follows
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67531
plz read carefully all pakistani ya hindustani...its intresting n no need to fight
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67531
conclusion PAKISTAN LOOSE INDIA WIN!!!!!!
WE PAKISTANIS ARE THE MOST USELESS IDIOTS OF THIS WORLD. INDIAN FUCKED OUR ASSES IN ALL THE WARS AND WE SURRENDERED ED OUR TERRITORY TO THEM STILL WE CALL,OURSELF THE BEST FORCE.
WE ARE IN A CIVILWAR SITUATION AND I MYSELF AND FAMILY ARE ASHAMED TO BE A PAKISTANI.
MY RELATIVES WENT TO INDIA AND DESTROYED THEIR PASSPORT TO STAY THERE. MY FAMILY LEAVES IN A HOPELESS COUNTRY CALLED PAKISTAN . BEING A MUSLIM ITS NOT NECESSERY I HAVE TO LOVE PAKISTAN . INDIA IS A MUCH BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
Finaly realise it, that Pakistan is India's gift coz we know how to forgive. We want peace not war. if we want war Pakistan will be nothing more than a scrap just over a minute. Leave those things Try to live in peace.
pakistani women to free me milte hain chod ne ke liye. lakin unko hum insan nahin chod te, unko to hamare gali ke kutte chod te hain hum to bas film bana ke sales banate hain. MADARCHOD PAKISTANIyo tumhari aukaat kya hai w/o INDIA agar india pani band karde to tum madarchod log kya khag rahoge fight karne ke liye. MOTHERFUCKER PAKISTAN's IMAGE BAD in d world's point of view. it's a poor country. FUCK U PAKISTANI's if u want to test us try ur label best " Hum pakistan ki namonisan mita denge WORLD map se ". dum he to try kar ke dekho.
In 1971 when we entered pak, we slit you in half, when we cross LOC now we will make a hundred bits of pak
Let those pakis know that we have one of the most advanced remote sensing capabilities in the world we can shoot any paki jets when they are still in the run way. Still don't believe us just ask uncle Sam who provided them the satellite images of Taliban hide outs post 9/11 .you fools it was our sats right above their heads.If we lower our sats to 700Ks we can see whether your pilot is in the cockpit or not.
Come on YOU PAKI ASS HOLES we can fuck you with our sukhois and BHRAMOS(ever heard of them) without crossing the LOC.
9 without crossing our loc
i just have two lines for you indian you will start the war and we pakistan will end it by kicking your army,your airforce and your navy as we have don before
seriously talking, there are some silly comments from both sides. Pakistani air force is no different from indian airforce except for numbers which india has superiority but to be true the quality of aircraft may be better with pakistan. neither can claim that thier pilots are superior. Frankly both were part of same country 60 odd years back with no significant difference in lineage. I should admit that the initial discussion by meihnaz is balanced and unbiased. As far as motives of each country is concerned it is not just a indian's but most of the worlds view that pakistan army and politicians( not people) do actively support terrorism and want a fanatic islamic nation rather than a developed and peaceful country. do the pakistani bhais dont accept this
1965 - Operation Gibraltar Failed attempt by Pakistan Army...Lahore captured by Indian Army..
1971 - 90000 assholes pakis as POWS...East Pakistan Wiped off from the world's Map....
1971 - Saga of Longewala more 2 regiments of tanks - fucked....by IAF Hunters
1971 - Op trident and Python By Indian Navy screwed Karachi and over 15 Ships drowned--INDIAN PEARL HARBOR
1965 & 1971 - F-86 Sabre ripped off by IAF Gnat --1/2 the size of F-86..Now Gnat known as Sabre Slayer....
1999 - U captured our bunkers when our soldiers were not there.....then why u fucking bastards were not able to hold them......
These are famous examples of Indian Supremacy...
Actually it is useless to talk about pakistan and Pakistanis they are idiotic creatures...
Ur Land is donated by India and weapons by US...Each pakistani is under a loan of $1500 of the world......So AssHole Pakis Do what ever murmur u want to do...........
CONCLUSION------PAKISTAN IS A BIG LOOSER,------------- PAKISTAN LOST ALL WARS, THERE IS NO MURD IN PAKISTAN ,------ ALL PAKIS ARE JUST CHUTIAS IN PAJAMAS, -----------PAKISTANIS RAY TO PIGS -------------PAKISTANIS SURRENDERED TO INDIANS WHY PAKISTANI S COMMIT SUICIDE!! THIS IS WHY THIS IS WHY THIS IS WHY
YES SO TRUE POOR PAKIS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ARGUE NOW IN THE INTERNET THEY LOST EVERYTHING !IZZAT AND AAN SO SAD. AS AM AMERICAN I BELIVE THESE PAKISTANIS ARE POOR DOGS FED BY US.
AND you poor indians fed by millions of tourists dollars who came india to fuck indian girls,women at most cheap rate.
cirsumcised pakistani satisfied 10 time more then our own lulloos,these are collective conclusion of all 50000 plus indian females gettin fucked by pakistanis visited their india,incredible...not
india walon ki chut mai kuttay ka lund. randi indians tumhare mulk akar tumhari maa aur behno ko choday gay ham... chaklay ki pedawaar indians
hahahha.....pakistani kutto
American living in Oklahoma has read these posts and is firmly convinced Paks and Indians need to shitcan those goofy religions and just raise your familys and treat each other like good neighbors and have a safe place for your children. More screwing and less fighting is a good place to start. And yes eat a cow my god its ok and good. And as far as 72 virgins, no thanks. Give me a babe with alot of experience. And please no more fuckin boys ya bunch of numbskulls.
to sum it up pakistan needs to get their economy together and the basics as they aren't going anywhere to sustain a war. It's al;l about economics now and india is moving fast . Pakistan is in trouble.
Economics India is going to become a superpower GDP growing by 9% . There isn't any point comparing anymore waste of time.
We have enemies that want us to be divided. Keep up the good work, boys-most of you are helping them to fulfill their plans.
Don't you get it? Nobody is happy in the west-money can't buy happiness. Don't be like them-that is what they want, because they believe if everyone follows them, then they must be right.
Fathers will compare their sons-it is ok to compare India and Pakistan and it is good to share what we have and help each other. We live on the same side of the world, we have the same history and the same blood. The west has no sense of family or community. Let's not forget ours. Politics named us Pakistan and India but we are all in the same family.
islam is only religion that preaches about peace and no dout MUHAMMAD (PBUH) is well wisher of humans.In the light of islam you can get a complete way of life that leads your society towards peace , mutual respect ,unity, well civilization and prosperty. If you dear non believers read islamic values with open mind and compare it with other religions logically ,you will know the truthness of islam and i am sure that you will embrace islam.
I Have a Single&simple question to those indians commented here.Do you know Or having slightest idea,knowledge about Pakistan War plan to any future war with india?it seems nane.I can give you clue,listen,KKS of 1945 by Japanese failed to achieved required result due to the slower A/Cs and non availability of the required kind of explosives,o.k,P.A.F have much more then required,A single P.A.FA/c would send your rusty Grashkov to seabed,same is the fate of IN remaining floatilla.to test ourAir Defence send your su30s,Just attack usthan stupid bakwas,we mean business,have courage??? smj_shahid96@yahoo.com
You indians lacks morality,even common sense.if you have any,even little tiny morality then tell me who is greater,daring,brave among two ofthese?A country(A) have fought and ready to fight again any time with acountry(B) having 4times bigger army 5time bigger air force 9 time bigger navy,besidehaving5time bigger geography,7time bigger economic resources.A orB?
Anonymous to hide you indian and talking so high?dreaming of becoming world power??crazy mental you..Look at china their infra structure and what are you??700million living under poverty line,killing minorities and claiming secular???millions of female infanticide and claiming liberals??USA beg Pakistan against USSR to become sole super power ....so you idiots think ur self as super power my foot
Feel sorry after reading this article and the comments from Pakistanis and Indians! What is wrong with you guys? What are you fighting for? What will you gain from killing each other? To understand what I mean, get your passports and try getting into any other country of the world. They try their best to keep you out! It is honestly disgraceful how Indians and Pakistanis are treated by the rest of the world. But instead of waking up and understanding that you are ONE, you keep fighting and trying to get the better of the other by silly boasts of weapons and killing each other! Guys, to be great you have to do great things! Nothing in life is greater than achieving PEACE and TOLERENCE. Try to forgive each other for past mistakes and learn to live together. Try it and there is no nation on earth that will be able to match the wealth and greatness of the people of the sub-continent! Remember, America - the super power - was discovered because Columbus set out to search a route to the sub-continent! It is time to WAKE UP!
creation of Pakistan disfigured india for ever,what You stupid indians gained in 1971,east Pakistanis had some geneuine reasons to pakistan,so they become Bangladeshis,had they joined india?so what you indians gained of it?Today bangladeshis are flying aircraft in Pakistan with PAF.look at any match among india and Pakistan and you would find bangladeshis dancing,shouting in favour of Pakistan.in fact Bangladeshis decrease Pakistan liabilities as now we would not divide our military resources to defend them so all available assest would utilize by slapping you from front.you star plus saas,bahus,go,drink urine and graze vegetables.
your all three forces and fuel dumps all over india are going to burnt.
Still uncertain about HARD fact of life,you..indians?let I explain you again.To compare either individual to individul or countries,nations,there are always some parameters implies to judge who is better than other,first india inherited each and every needed to run a country at the time of independence,as British did established all civil,military,financial,technical setups in hindu majority area,later india inherit all that and Pakistan inherit big zero.second india is bigger,larger in resources,3time bigger army 4 time bigger air force,9 time bigger Navy,any sane person would conclude that any type of comparison among india,Pakistan would reflects the greatness of Pakistan.india inherits all 18 ordinance factories build by British while Pakistan none even such unjust start Pakistan despatch tit for tat response when india tested nukes,you indians dreaming to be super power while depends on tiny israel for weapons,such a mental luxury indian induldges in.your RAW is just raw when it comes to ISI.your claim of been secular,liberal,open minded nation is nothing but illusion.you indians desperately trying to develop animosity among provinces,it is my sincier advise to allyour BIG heads at delhi and raw is, look into your own house where 40 districts are in complete control of maoists,and to your claim of being secular,liberal etc is stop female infanticide,let DALITS to live,minorities remain under constant fear,and at last think about your neighbours,Bhotan,Srilanka Bangladesh,Nepal,Maldives beside Pakistan all suffer indian Hindu mentality,learn,read little to behave like common sense.
Since indians acquire su30mk they suffer uncontrollable euphoria,with there existed mig29,mirages,etc they start believing that in case of war it would be matter of hours to conquer Pakistan,nonsense.it seems indians have skulls without having brain in it,because any sane person can predict about pakistan that there must be an air defence,and for the indian I want to tell them that the israeli air force,much advanced than indian made plans atleast for three time to attack pakistan nuclear facilities but drop the idea each time,Why............would indian bother to think why??????because pakistan has multi faceted,multilayered air defence system,your su 30scan come but would never let to go back by pakistanis,we are too hospitable.
Shahid bhai,
Its all about economics now and there is no point comparing . India is growing fast at 9% and Pakistan needs to get their economy together or it will be a failed state . Forget wars it comes down to the economy. Sorry man.
fuck hind.OK you fucking indian just for a while forget about 9 percent that,s it.you fuck you know that pakistan is growing 99/percent in nuclear so that they can fuck you good by my big dick in your mother and sisters ass.and before war face the achakzai pathan,s when they fuck you and your durga fucking maiya.and all Muslim rawan,s will fuck all your fucking seeta,s in one row.so be ready to take a Pakistani dicks so that you people can suck good dicks of a Pakistani and british dicks.since you people are sucking till end of your life.and come and suck my Pakistani dicks is still waiting for you.
1965 : PAKISTAN AIRFORCE HAD NEWER PLANES & WEAPONS WAR ENDED IN SETTLEMENT.
1971: INDIA HAD OVERWHELMING SUPERIORITY & WON THE WAR.
1999 : INDIA FAR MORE SUPERIOR PAKISTAN DIDN’T DARE TO USE ITS AIR FORCE
so why didn't pak use its air force just because we are the world's fourth largest air force and our economy is much stronger than pak and pak economy is based on funds from USA. "khairat ke paise se jung nahi ladi jati".
Khusro mirza please get an education buddy becuase sucking dicks aint going to get you anywhere. One nuclear bomb in pakistan will send you to anilihation. Sorry brother get an education first learn how to speak and help your country. Cheers
India will not be able to move a single aircraft if Pakistan gets offensive......Pakistan is going to be the next Muslim Super Power.....Indian game will bw over in a few years. Even Indians know the poor condition of their country.
First of all Russians Sukhoi planes are just like KATE MASTERS in Karate Sports...or simply for aesthetic purposes, where as Pakistan JF-17 Thunder is being made in China and Pakistan.
Brainless Indians should think 100 times before trying these Acrobatic and Sporty Sukhois against Pakistan.....Pakistan will definitely love to duck shoot these Russian toys.
kashif bhai get the economy together. The country is is going bankrupt you are borrowing fro the americans and the country cant afford a war.Get the basics right help your country. No point comparing with India which has over 1 millinon strong army which will walk over lahore in 2 days. Its all about economics buddy help your country.
You are right,we are in the state of economic crisis the major reason among other is the brahmin,chankia,hindu mentality as its never accepted neither digested the fact,reality of state of Pakistan since august14,1947.since then these indians having single point agenda,undo pakistan,so we pakistanis have no option but to gain and maintain our military streangth.Maut indian kay sir per mandla rahi hay as 300+nukes are reason to why indian dont sleep peacefully.and they are dreaming of becoming global power?such are indian mental condition. a
before i write anything let me invoke 'in the name of halla, the most sodomised the most fornicated'. i guess with facts and figures like yours only hallah's woman abusing great bick ass can save you. no wonder u guys are always despo to get into it. the stink from that worm infested hole does not make u smell that u guys have been raped silly in the past. u have been cut into 2 pieces. 90,000 of your 'bangladeshi women' abusing prics shamelessly hung their white bloodless dicks. you airforce was reduced to a third. u guys were chased out of the valley in 48 from the gates of srinagar. the un and that fool of a nehru saved u. u guys got raped in siachen. its with us. u guys didnt even claim your martyrs in kargil. we buried them for u in the name of... whatever. the whole world knows this and laughs at u and ur excuses and claims. only that great big ass of hallah dosent let u see that. glory to that great ass from my side honestly. keep staying in it. it makes me happy that pukistan is fooling itself. its the greatest advantage and entertainment to us and i really love halla and his stooges.
u woman raping wretches, time has proven that the occupants of hallah's ass are the supreme traitors and backstabbers and i am really ashamed of the fact that pukistan was a part of us once. lucky me that i wasnt around at that time and i dont have to call u brothers anymore. the ass dosent permit much else all else being unasslamic. so what u cant achieve by firepower u try and achieve by word power. every piddly international meet you pimp kashmir like a whore. no body listens to u but then u got nothing else to say all else being unasslamic. your great pukistan dosent even have a proper steel plant. it cant even make a bicycle from iron ore and you think people believe your missile tech and tank tech and air tech. (i do believe in your air tech coz there is only fart in it). you leechers u go offering ur ass around to anyone who wants it for some aid and money just like a pissing good for nothing. the us used and abused u when they required for some carrots they offered u. now its the chinkies turn. they will give u ur carrots and abuse u on the wrong side later. uve a good choice of friends. ur old friend is bombing u now with drones bcoz he knows ur not worth his pilots. u theiving beggars u try to steal nuke tech and get caught. u smile shamefacedly like a slut whos been caught in the bushes. u go begging around for tanks and guns. and whatever cheap second rate and used stuff is thrown at u, u paint it give it fancy asslamic names and claim them as indigenous. pukistan cant extract steel from iron ore on an industrial scale. their universities are 'mudrassas' (alass hussein alass!) but they can indegenously carry out joint R&D and production of state of the art fighter aircraft. u dont even have money to fund it so u grow opium by the wishes of hallah. u even come begging for water to us. abe lathkhoro kithe laath khaoge. chinkies are the greatest bastards around. they will bust that ass of urs then ull have nothing left to pimp except ur big mouth. u guys keep us entertained so keep up the show. u cant take kashmir so u send ur chuhaideen to rape and kill (same as 1948). when ur ass catches fire u scream for help to the chinkies and try to 'internationalize' it. self help is the best help but for u guys its unasslamic i guess, except when u masterbate in ur 'mudrassas' as u guys must be really despo to catch a glimpse of ur women in hijab. god knows what u see in them. but i guess u use ur imagination and masterbate till the time the mullah gets ur backside. its so funny u even watch the dumbest bollywood movies as ur movies are stone age and nobody in india even hears about them. but so what u guys cant even produce a medieval std movie u guys can still produce missiles(LOL). ill let u onto a secret about ur dear friend. china secretly spies and clones all its products on western and russian stuff. theyre smart that way. they dont reinvent the wheel. whatever good and indegenous upgrades it adds it keeps. the shit that is leftover from its assembling it gives to u for free. else they would have to throw it away. that carrot is enough to fool u behind that iron ass. great and merciful ass. first stop opium and grow wheat. make factories raods schools electricity to at least minimum acceptable levels. stop priding on your primeval tribals and their solid puke between the ears mindset and try to give them a life. pukistan is a fuckin nation of kabailis who think that the might of hallahs ass will see them through. but dont forget an ass only shits. summing it up ive a very apt sher for pukistan ' arz kiya hai.. mere gaand me dum nahin, lekin hum kisi se kam nahin.' taliya taliya !!!!!!!!!!!
by the way i dont at all intend to show disrespect to allah or islam. but i dont dont consider pukis as muslims. islam was born to uplift and enlighten humanity like all other religions. but in the hands of pukistanis the name of allah has only become hallah.
by the way twopenny puki female wannabe models and filmstars are despo to get inside india to enjoy the good life. they get fucked from both sides just for a chance to be known here but they still enjoy it. ive laid a couple of them and theyre good fun. theyre so frustrated with ur hijab society and the mullah humping techniques back home. poor dolls.
hey please visit wikipedia for reference.... IAF outdone USAF in all feilds<< USAF report said:-"The exercise, in which US F-15Cs were said to have been defeated more than 90 per cent of the time in direct combat exercises against the IAF, is causing US Air Force officials to re-evaluate the way the service trains its fighter pilots while bolstering the case for buying the F/A-22 as a way to ensure continued air dominance for the United States"
please there is no comparision of pakistan af with indian af.....Indian af is at least 5 times more powerfull.
But we should not forget that stability in this region is very important for development of any country..!(india or pakistan)
You guys in Pakistan need to get your economy together even before comparing military might buddy. You won't be able to sustain a war for over a week as you are pretty much banktrupt and depending on the americans. Bad news but its all about economics now and a economic war. India is moving rapidly at 9% with over 400 billion in foriegn reserves . help your country first get its economy together and then lest chat.
joke of the day. all vehs in puke army are imported as indeed also on their roads. (remember those old maruti vans in paki cities or shities u see on tv). the dicks of jannat cant even produce a vehicle but they manufacture fighter jets and missiles. LOL LOL LOL. before the puki 'nuke test' the CIA had confirmed reports of chineese high security convoys coming to pukistan via the karakoram highway and lo behold 4 days later the bombs burst. the CIA incedentally monitors the chineese convoys along the karakoram highway and predicts puki missile tests. LOL LOL. in reality the puki nuke arsenal is a myth. the chineese supply them with outdated and trial version stuff for posturing against india and spread its influence from the western border. india of course is on guard on both fronts. chineese aim is achieved. proof to that US does not recognise puke as a nuclear state yet wants to take control of puki arsenal. funny isnt it? truth is claiming that puki (nonexistant) nuclear and missile arsenal falling into renegade hands america is slowly extending presence in af pak ; initially afganistan (theyre claiming mineral resources in af to est a undercover permanent base in the guise of mining consultant, china too is trying the same trick.) and subsequently pukistan. afganistan is the underbelly of central asia. (read central asian oil reserves and the GREAT GAME). pukistan gives an alternative route through karakoram highway and is perfect as a posture against china. the region gives access to disturbed areas of china viz tibet and muslim dominated western china. and the us views china as the next true adversary. but the pukis feel really important and are happy. LOL LOL. never mind old friend uncle sam is bombing them. the puki fornicator dosent realise no body trusts him. the chineese have learnt their lesson from the us pak dosti in the past. so they dont mind us bombing 'friend' puke and look the other way. the shit they supply puke for it to dply against india is putrid mtrl arguably compareable in tech to scuds. afterall they also dont want that 10 yrs from now the same stuff gets turned agaist them. the us has learnt it the hard way.
the chineese arent so stupid. when in 99 nawaz miya went to china begging for help when his and puki fauji ass was being busted by the indian army the chinkies told him point blank to get his stinking shit out of kargil. nawaz miya came home like a raped whore and cried to uncle sam that he was not aware of kargil and that mohajir matherchod mushi was responsible. sam put a crowbar upp nawaz miya's ass and he didnt know what to do. what a fuckin joke of a nation. but all this dosent matter. what matters that the dumb beefhead pukis love fucking pork's ass. no logic strikes them no sense prevails no brains tickle no realisation dawns. theyre an amazing breed. they live in an hallah promised jannat where there are no pigs and where they either are belching and burping rhetorics which fools nobody but themselves or are begging and whining like pimps, whores and beggars; all rolled in one. they go begging around shamelessly for planes and tanks, money, food, small change.. almost anything. nobody gives them anything except small change and some fakes. fakes are all from china. they get reused 2nd hand f16s from aus poor boys. theyre obssesed with the f16s and dont mind buying them 2nd hand even if they are getting j10s from chinkies. now they claim the j10 to be superior to anything under their jannat wonder why they want 2nd hand f16s. funny isnt it. probably there are some bright sparks in puke afterall... LOL LOL. interestingly when india wants jets all foriegn firms line up at the doorstep with the latest stuff and are ready to outdoo each other by hook or by crook for a place in india. and they come armed with their diplomatic and government support. but i guess such support is required by a spineless place like india and not in pukistan which is the lund of hallah and his braves. so would a puki believe. LOL LOL LOL LOL.
RAAM sab se bara harami kutt
SEETA ki to main gand hi parh do kuttiya ki
aur sunna hai?
karishna to hai hi haram ki olad aur ?
IAF can wipe out the entire PAF in a span of weeks. u pakis beg to US,china and other western powers for money. We are self sufficient...
Jai Hind!
i dont understand the puki mindset with their nightmares of india conquering puke. 1stly india has better things to do. its trying hard to devlop itself and dosent teach its next gen that india must be strong to screw puki. puke normally dosent even figure in regular indian minds unless there is a terrorist strike.
most indians today are happy that partition happened. that is after observing pukestan for the last quarter of a century. theyre not worth living in with and neither is their dustbin of a cuntry worth even spitting at. if it had been so india would have ensured long time back that puke also fell the bangladesh way. so my dear pukis no indian is interested in ur shitpot of a real estate or ur mullah ass lickin people. ur just like a parasite up someones ass. u keep irritating and the best thing is to scratch u out slowly. no point in gunning for antibiotics for a tick. for eg india's missile dev is an offshoot of its space program. indian space prog is older than its msl pgme. india has sent a probe to the moon. puke has sent a prick to the mudrassa. india did not want militarization initially as espoused in pancsheel and non alignment but given tics like puke it has had no options at times to diver given the present sit it has had had to prioritise mil spending. it still has one of the lowest percentage of gdp for defence. and whatever the result india is aiming for a much wider arena. it wants to ignore puke but the mullahs r still itchind in their asses for a royal fuck. so of late puke has become an interesting testing arena for india to guage a number of parameters. esp puke with its niggardly chineese rejects. dont worry pukis sooner or later one day ull get what ur so itching for. it shoul be a grand achievement for u afterall shahadat is ur el dorado. sad but thats what happens to no firepower only wordpower bde. i hope ive been simple enough for puki beefhead to understand. even if its 10% my aim is achieved. anything more would be severly optimistic on my part
guess what u puki yes raam is sub se bara harami kutt... fantasize about it. seeta ki gaand phar do shabash keep masturbating about it. and correctly brought out krishna haram ki aulad hai... good uve studied indian mythology keep having wet dreams about whatever uve written. theres nothing better for u to do in pukistan anyway. i guess uve never heard of the fact that idle mind is a devil's workshop. so dont keep ur beefhead idle keep fantasizing about 5000 yr old buria sita's ass. u dont have any better choices anyway. except goin to bomb newyork or chicago or delhi perhaps.
u pukis 94% of ur dna is same with indians. 800 yrs back nearly all pukis were hindus. so when a puki fantasizes busting a 5000 yr old buria sita's ass he's only disgracing the beliefs of his ancestors and defaming his ancestors. well thats pretty expected behaviour from a puki. he is so interested in the mullah's ass he dosent see much else. if he could puke would not have been a dustbin. for the record pukistan is top 10 in the list of international failed state, it is one of the biggest debtors of the world bank, it has one of the poorest records in human development index rivalled by angola sudan excreta excreta, so is the case with human rights, it is one of the non declared poliferators and theives in the nuke an missile tech, it is funded by donors, it has no repayment schedules of its loans rather it begs for more, it is the biggest hotbeds of povery driven religious fanaticism, abyssymal record of implementation of internationally founded development schemes, it is not self sufficient in food either, it grows clandestine opium with afganistan, it is one of the top 10 most corrupt state.... list is endless. to top it it was founded by a man called 'qaid e azam' call it kut e adham m a jinnah who was a closet homosexual. nehru was a closet womaniser of course. so no wonder the puki fascination of mullahs for tennaged male asses lol lol lol. and as far as the puki army is concerned its dna is same as the indian army as they both draw their roots from the royal india army. but that was 60 yrs ago. as of now it is a completely politicised establishment with a history of coups, hobnobbing with extremists and criminals, corruption (it eats up most of the defunct national budget) so on and so forth. now time has proven that a military should never get involved in civil problems, politics, crime or adminstration for any length of time. all established militaties and nations across the world follow this philosophy. but not the pukis. it is pointless to mention to a puki that history has proven a military involved in the trappings of civil life is a failed force and that it can never remain a professional and disciplined force. at best it remains as a balance between the fanatical the selfish and the ceremonial. theese are the very qualities that are described as the most unsoldierly in any professional army. no wonder every puki gen wants to be the president secretly and furthur his own narrow aims. in the process the nation is transformed into a dustbin
muhamad ki ma ki chut me pissu aa ke muut gaya. muhammad apne baap ka lund kat ke laya our tel lagakar apni maa ke bund me dalna chaha. lekin tel ke karan bap ka lund uske apne gand me ghus gaya. isliye muhammad ne bola machodo ke jhat ke baal ki khalo apne lund kaat dalo nehi to woh ek dusre ke bund me ghus jayenge. iske baad gusse ke maare muhammad ne apni maa ke saare chedo ko suaro se chudwaya aur duniya ko bola 'aurat haram hai' phir woh bhaga bhaga gaya aur apne behen ke lund ko katkar uski gand maar dali. alas husein alas. isliye muhammad ne moharram manaya. uski gaand jaise phati thi waise use sabki pharni thi. isliye mochi aur muslim ka choli daman ka saath hai. phatne ke baad koi to gaand siye. are suar ke lund ki paidaish ko khali bund me laath chahiye. unke haram aurato ke chuut mein ita rakh ke hag do. muhamad matherchod allah ki gaand dhone jannat bhag gaya. usne apna lund nahi kata waha woh khuda ki ma chod raha hai. idhar duniya me jitne chutlim rah gaye woh ekdusre ki gand marne lage aur jisko maja aaya uski gaand dhone bhi lage. mullah maderchod gand dhobi ka neta nikla. usne saari aurto ki bund chodi lekin jab tak lund katneko namile tab tak maja kaha. hijab ke niche woh chudi aurate apni bund silti phirti hai. ekdin saari aurate milke allah ki gaand maar dalenge apni haato se woh bhi bina tel lagaye. tub saare mussale katlunde matherchod ke gaand ke boo ki maa ka bhosro ko gaand silne ke liye jannat bulaya jayega. fuck what a life . its better to worship cows than cutting off ones own dick. kya yaar tum logo ke lund me itna bhi control nahi hai. kis baat se darte ho. kya yehi ki apna lund apne gand me na ghus jaye.
i agree. islam is the most degerative disease ever to afflict man. all over the world muslims have problems with everything and everybody. theyre a bunch of troublemakers with their brains between their legs. the only thing theyre good at is treason and blaming everyone else for their failures. and since majority is of fools everywhere they pick up the scum of society as followers.
pakistanis are just frog in the wells or lakir ke fakirs. its not fair to equate them with islam in general and some posts are in real bad taste.
pakison
i dont care what anyone thinks. the noorani kurani matherchods stink.
These above comments suggests the indian mentality,sick to the bone marrow,being a Pakistani I can hurl more abusives to you but I wouldnt because we are not become rabib dogs like you indians.
M a indian muslim and this is from and on behalf of all indian muslims -:
" madarchod pakistanis tumhari maa ko chodoon bhonsadiwalo . we screwed you like prositutes in all the three wars . it seems your pussy is not yet satisfied thats y you son of bitches are talking like this . this time we Indians will fuck you so hard and tear your pussy apart . It seems that you got fucked so much by us Indians in 1971 and kargil that you have lost your mind and senses ,that y you have audacity to compare yourself with india . tell all your females in karachi ,rawalpindi ,islamabad and lahore to keep their pussy ready , we indians will shortly be their to rape thier pusssy apart . and i think the mother of the writer of this article , must have got raped by dogs and donkeys thats y he is born mad and writes such foolish articles . Mr writer if by mistake you have got a wife , sister ,mother or daughter , send them to india ,so that we will screw them ,so that next generations will be born sensible ."
India is proud of its culture , diversity ,armed forces .There are more muslims in india than even combined of pakistan, bangladesh and afganistan . And they are Indians first .Before witing such bullshit first go and read kuran first . Dont just memorize it like idiots ,but first try to understand it . Understand its meanings, teachings and essence . Allah says love all the people in the world ,spread peace and harmony . Allah is great ,islam is great , all relgions in the world are great . We are human first , let us all endeavour to make this world a more happy and peace full place . let us together fight our common enemies like poverty ,illetracy,unemployment instead of talking nonsense about each other . whole world has progressed ,but we are still part of third world countries . why because of idiots like the author of this article,people who have commented crap on it and few lunatic.
i dont care who is abusing whom in this forum. it dosent matter anyway. this website is puki. so its of no consequence. lets call it 'gandstrategy.com' iaf vs paf. case closed
shahid mehmood isnt a rabid dog. he is a masterbating wretch who fantasizes raping women after tearing their hijab. thts why he wants women and forces his wife to wear hijab. poor girl must be wearing it under the threat of unrestrained sodomy. thats what the pukis learn at their shitpots and defiled closet homosexual (mudrassa) houses anyway. and they want to spread their filth all over the world or so they have orgasams dreaming of. what losers man. what else can u expect of a man who thinks cutting his own dick and then possibly commit suicide as the greatest achievements of his life. when he goes to so called jannat and stands in front of allah (i believe in the goodness of god no matter what name u call him) allah will rape his already widened mullah enjoyed ass to shreds. allah will say 'i gave u a life to do good but u blew it and a 100 more away with a bomb. i gave u a dick but u are incapable of even enjoying it the way i made it.' thats the reality of the shahid mehmoods of puke. as for me im proud of our muslim brothers. they stand shoulder to shoulder in defending our motherland, our former president is the father of indian space, missile and technology, a man who is worthy of idolizing. u pukis think indian muslims are in bad shape? abdul kalam was a poor boy from a fishing village. they dont need ur sympathies. they can fuck u inside out. in ur own land ur sunnis blast sufi shrines and shia mosques as a government policy. theyre are negative elements everywhere but at least the fabric of this country wants development for everyone. and for the info of the likes of mr mehmood puki and the likes u guys never ruled us lol. before 1947 and before ur beggar and homosexual jinnah pleaded for his own estate their was no pukistan. and the cases of the odd mahmud of gazni and the like were fleeting. and because of their barbarian ways on a civilized society they made some headway. but in a span of 100 yrs their ilk was wiped out. the mughals were persians not pukis. they could establish themselves here permanently because they respected and embraced the culture and pracctices of this land. thus was sufism born. akbar the great's mil commander was a hindu u idiot. jehangir and shah jehan gave free money to build hindu temples and monastaries. even taj mahal has significant elements of vaastu shasra in it u morons. ur ancient sites of civilisation like the ancient taxila university were hindu and buddhist seats of learning and belonged to ur ancestors(ive no doubt that some years down the line likes of u will destroy them like the bamiyan buddhas in afganistan.). coming to the mughals. aurangzeb was the only religious hardliner in the mughal lineage and consequently sowed the seeds of destruction of the mughal empire. but lets go back more than a 1000 years. read history of india as no history of pukistan exists. i know its too much a mental exercise for the citizens of a country which is just 63 yrs old but still all of pak and most of afgan was part of the gupta, mauyra, pala and sena empires of what are now the states of bihar and bengal and numerous other empires. alexander the great conqured much of pak and came upto the jhelum river. but he dared not to cross it and turned back due to the presence of the armies of the nanda or the magadh empire of up and the gangadirai empire of bengal. if u go back to indian mythology (i dont intend it in the religious context) the mahabarata war was fought primarily due to the manipulations of one bastard known as SHAKUNI. SHAKUNI was the king of GANDHAR desh. historians and archaeologist all agree that 'gandhar' desh is modern day kandahar in afganistan. he of course died a dogs deat as a dog fully deserves it. so u pukis are at best his progeny and will perish accordingly. i dont much beleive in historical value of epics be it mahabharat or illiad of greece but they do have some grain of history involved and the metaphorical parallal is too hard not to overlokk. so much for u "rulers".
shahid bhai. indian mentality is not sick. we wouldnt have produced nobel winners or oscar winners, neither would we have reached the moon or won booker prizes if it was. but to deal with scum and filth like urs we can be 100 times sicker and fouler. so sick that no drugs in the international market from anyone can alleviate u.
IAF can wipe out the entire PAF in a span of weeks.We would like to hunt down ur F-16s when they meet face-to-face with our MiG29s and Sukhoi-30s.Ur F-16s will drop like flys.
Jai Hind
u pakis beg in front of united states for funds.we Indians r self sufficient.
shahid bhai.India produces software,cars,miltary equipments nd other things.We got companies like Tata,HCL,WIPRO,INFOSIS,MAHINDRA which r of Indian origin nd is known through out the globe.What do u pakis produce?
Here is the answer...
1>Dozens of children from four wives.
2>Islamic terrorism.
That's all I need to say.
Jai Hind...
Hasnain chutia...,u guys are planning to get AWACS.We have it already.Ur PAF is not match for IAF.The history itself proves the struggle for PAF to survive in dogfight wiht IAF.UR fighters planes were taken down like mosquitoes by IAF fighters.
The same above situation can take place again.So better watch out....
Jai Hind.
read the google survey for the countries which top the porn site access searches. pukistan is numero uno. at least they are good at something. 'paak'istan is actually now pornistan officially. what a fuckin joke. what despots man. they sure are frustrated with their chopped dicks. lol lol lol lol
WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT OBJECTIVE THEIR OPINIONS ARE OF NO CONSEQUENCE.
WHAT MATTERS IS THE OPINION OF USAF WHEN BOTH IAF AND PAF PARTICIPATE IN THE RED FLAG.
us ki kuss woh hram zada johmain terorrist kahy madarchod.hm insaf pr lrny wali qoom hain gandoo k bchoo
I unfortunately personally know Meinhaj Hussein. A typical Islamic loser who showed his true colors and sick mindset at the end of the day. Of course after he and his family enjoyed everything that US had to offer.
There was nothing anyone did wrong to him for him to have such hatred in his heart but then Islam does that to you I guess. Especially the pussy tactic of playing victim when they have been the greatest aggressors and genocidal monsters in history.
He comfortably forgets that in his own country Bangladesh 3 million people were wiped out by the Pornis oops Porkis... oops Puke-is.. oops Pakistani army and India had to come and save their sorry asses.
Or maybe he does not care as 80% of his countrymen killed by the Pornistani army were Hindus. After all their so called prophet also encouraged killing of unarmed non believers including women and children.
They shit in their pants when real American, ISraeli or Sikh Indian army comes but are very macho while raping helpless women and killing babies and civilians.
Guys this guy is psychotic and thankfully out of the US soon but is going to Malaysia. Make sure if you can to notify Malaysian authorities about him and do not let him do his evil deeds freely. Make him run till the only place left is NWFP/Afghanistan/Somalia/Yemen and after that the US drones will get him.
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